First Post

I really don't know where to begin... I'll try to be quick and simple even though I don't think it's as easy as that sounds. August 2012 I found myself leaning up against a mud wall in some goat herders back yard in Afghanistan after volunteering to be flown out on a Blackhawk to a site where the RCP company I volunteered to go to war with, was now trapped. I spent 4 days wondering if I was ever gonna go home again, trying to stay awake, sharing a 16oz water bottle with a team leader, pulling 50/50 guard at night which always ended up being 100/100, and trying to devise a plan with my Platoon Sgt. during the day, whom at the time was also dealing with a thousand other issues to include the denial of external help from RC commanders (Battle space, go figure). We were trapped on the outskirts of a village between Bala Murghab and Turkmenistan and I remember seeing the glaring lights from the border of Turkmenistan that was literally 10 miles away where apparently, life was similar to the United States. On the opposite side was a village littered with Taliban/Al-Qaeda fighters who ran angle hair wire throughout the town and into the only passing road which was wide enough to only fit the width of the RCP Buffalo, so once in the path, there was no turning around. After 2 attempts and 2 disastrous IED's later, the push of the 6 RCP vehicles(now 5), 3 MP MATV's, and 2 recovery vehicles (now 1) now had us all at a stand still. It was a 1 mile stretch from end to end but really seemed like forever. The original mission ironically enough because I'm writing this here, was to provide a passageway for an ODA 6 hours north of the COP we had left the initial morning days prior, IOT head back south towards Kandahar. I just though I'd mention the COP we were at housed a group of MARSOF guys who were watching everything through their TOC predator feed, and even them could not come out to help.

After being denied multiple times through our BFT that no one else had authorized permission to assist we began thinking of a solution because we had about a days left of supplies before we went black on ammo, water, and food. Sadly enough our last damn supply airdrop had occurred the night prior. The following morning by the grace of god, some form of air drop occurred a few miles away on the backside of a mountain. Soon enough after dawn, 3 figures began walking down to our location which were 3 navy EOD techs. It was honestly a blessing. We had never really prepared for a situation as this one, and to see guys who trained at a different level, especially for IED's, gave us a sense of relief that's honestly unexplainable. As an RCP we trained on simple tactics. IED awareness, being able to BIP, familiarizations, GPR's, UXO's etc etc, but never for this. We began working now with the EOD techs to figure out a solution to get through the town, and hours later we received yet another form of assistance coming from the back side of the village. 3 Afghan EOD trained soldiers were to push through the village searching for spotters (within the homes) that were waiting for us to make our next attempt to drive through the path. Literally about 30 minutes later a barrage of small arms fire occurred from within the village. Word was sent through BFT, that the Afghans EOD help were now KIA. I think it was that moment reality set in that there were people waiting for us, in this COUNTRY, who wholeheartedly wanted us dead. It was definitely a pinnacle moment in time for me.

The plan was set and we were to line up everyone except 1 TC and 1 driver for each vehicle, and as the vehicles crawled through the village our 30 man front would walk through simultaneously staying abreast, while maintaining visual confirmation of the RCP. The plan was set and the 3 EOD techs would be divided amongst the 30 men. No women, even though some were MP's, were allowed to walk. There would be 1 EOD tech on the main road before the RCP trucks then 10 men to his right (which was my group). Another EOD tech, 10 men, and then the last tech and the rest of the men that were left. Before briefing the men my Platoon Sgt. (a somewhat religious man), in front of the leadership suggested he'd say a prayer that almost came out movie like. I remember feeling in that moment, if I die today, the only people who will ever know this feeling... are the men to my left and my right. After the prayer the rest of the RCP was briefed by their individual squad or team leaders and began preparing for the push. People mounted the trucks, weapons were brushed and cleaned as best as possible; oiled and functions checked. The trucks were started, everyone line up, and we all began walking, looking to our left and right at the low ready, I instantly thought to myself, "Is this seriously happening? Holy shit this is nuts". As we originally left the back yard and began walking through this field towards the town we ran the last 30 or so feet to a 10 ft.wall which we climbed using the ladder taken off of the back side of one of the recovery vehicles. I was 1st up and over and literally slid down the opposite side about 15ft having some of the wall collapse in my eyes through my sunglasses, due to my free hand trying to grab onto anything on the way down, ripping pieces right off the wall. As we pushed through the village, stacking on doors and kicking them down fighters saw us coming and ran to the opposite side of the village to an open field. Through short, sporadic small arms engagements we broke through the village to the open field, being engaged by fighters as we piled into the now exposed RCP trucks exiting the village. Our guys instantly jumping behind MK19's and 50's, began a very close quarter battle of about 50 meters away that was clearly overwhelming in our favor. I just remember one of the MK19 gunners and his bullseyes hit, which later on became the talk of the town because of his lucky shot. After finally making it back, I befriended an army infantry squad leader working with the MARSOF guys and got a chance to work with them without informing my RCP company, worried they might deny my participation. Very long story short, we ran different night ops to include local air drops using NVG's on dirt bikes, short recons of nearby villages, and other local trips throughout nearby towns but most of all, just the overall camaraderie between men whom I feel were fearless, really gave me an outer body experience where the inexplicable trust between a group of people was stronger than any blood family member could ever offer me. I came off of my deployment waited about 6 months and gave Special Forces serious consideration. I volunteered to try out the pre selection process in Maryland with the 20th SFG, which is 6 months and after every passing training day, I couldn't believe I'd made it... well survived is more like it. So here I am now awaiting a selection date hoping to tell my wife my ultimate goal is to be embedded in an active group doing what SF does best, help people however, whenever, and wherever they can because of their selfless service to the world.
Last PT test Scores:
Push Ups - 97
Sit Ups - 86
2 Mile Run - 11:53
Pull Ups - 18
10 Mile Ruck - 2:22:00
6 Mile Run - 46:00
 
Hello, everyone. My name is Sam and I'm a 28 year old civilian who decided I want to enlist approximately 15 months ago.
I am currently trying to enlist with an 18x contract and am only waiting to find out if I can obtain the necessary clearance for SF.
I want to be SF because I feel that it's the best way that I can be useful and contribute to the Army. I know everyone technically starts out as a liability, especially as a new recruit but I hope to become an asset to the Army and our country. I strongly believe I was put on Earth to become a part of SF.
I also recently found out that my biological father was SF and later worked for the NSA. Useless information but it was the coolest thing I've ever heard about my dad and it explains a lot why I want this so much.
Anyways, a little information about me:
I have a three year old son and another on the way. I graduated from SIU with a Bachelor's in Automotive Technology in December of 2011 and worked as a production supervisor in a Chrysler plant for about 3 years. Other than that, my work experience is about 4 years in retail management and 6-7 years as an Automotive Technician.
I recently lost 50 lbs and then quit smoking on July 2nd. I'm now 5'10 190 with a goal weight of 175. I believe it's the optimal weight for me to have the greatest balance of stamina and strength.
I've been trying to enlist since July of last year and is been as long process. I've loved in a lot of different cities and states, I had a lot of traffic violations in a lot of those places, and had an underage drinking incident back in 2006 when I was 19.
I screwed up a lot when I was younger so if I can't get the clearance for SF I'll understand it's my own fault and will be perfectly okay with 11B. My recruiter also told me that one I'm in the "Big Army" is a lot easier to obtain secret security clearance. Hopefully that's true because my biggest fear is being under utilized.
In this group I'm looking for other's experience in the Army enlistment process with a moral waiver required, I'm looking for a training mentor/buddy to help keep each other motivated, and other people that share my passion but have experience I can learn from. Thank you for the add and I look forward to what this group has to share.
 
Oh, forgot to post PT scores. Since everyone else is...
14:46 2 mile
85 push ups
71 sit ups
22 pull ups
*still haven't done a ruck because I want advice first on amount of weight to carry and distance/time for my first one*
 
My recruiter also told me that one I'm in the "Big Army" is a lot easier to obtain secret security clearance.

Your post says you will be happy in the Army whether you can get a clearance or not, but I think you would want to verify the validity of your recruiter's statement -
 
You are correct. And I'm hoping someone here can help me with that. They also said that it doesn't matter what MOS you decide, "if later on you want to go to SFAS and your Commander at the time agrees you may be cut out for it, they most likely will allow it". Are both our either of these things true?
 
NOTE: I've got some ambitious goals beyond 18E. I won't go into them too much, in keeping with the 25M target thread/mindset. That's neither here nor there, since I'm supposed to be talking about the "why" and not so much the "what." I'm just putting that first bit out there for the sake of transparency upfront - I plan on sticking around for a while.



In my intro post I touch on some of that "why," but here's a more detailed post. Just prior to getting out I had a deployment that was, albeit stressful, one of the most enriching experiences in my lifetime. I was on an ANGLICO firepower control team. Our team (one JTAC, Sr. and Jr. forward observer, and Sr. and Jr. Comm guys who are all observers qualified to generate CAS target data) were responsible for any air/arty/naval guns fire support for a platoon of infantry Marines. We basically attached two people to a squad, one sr. comm guy and a jr. forward observer or vice versa on seniority, who would provide the support directly, or indirectly if the squad and observers were not co-located.

Striving, in some cases needing, to be mistake free (writing/reading grids, hell, determining grids and other target data; having the comm programmed correctly, every time; even down to the easy stuff like simply having our weapons clean and ready for one cycle of operation after another for an unknown number of times) kept me at peak performance mentally, physically and I might even dare to say spiritually. I couldn't have articulated it at the time, but being on a team that had borne such a burden was deeply satisfying for me and developed me in ways which I'm still realizing to this day.

After getting out, I realized that this kind of team environment was missing from my life, and at the risk of sounding overconfident, I felt like I was missing from it. I know I contributed to the team and know I have more to contribute. Way beyond my 25M target (SFRE) is someone who will one day need to rely on me to do my shit and do it right while he covers his sector with his back turned to me. I welcome that knowing that I will be able to rely on him to do the same. This prospect satisfies me and keeps me going with my current training.

I realize that if I really wanted to I could bare a huge burden in just about any unit, so long as I play my cards right, keep my nose clean and put my hand in the air every chance I get. Why SOF then? Because I would be missing out on an opportunity to work as part of a team comprised entirely of the kind of guys who, too, would put their hands in the air, for their own reasons, but to the same end.

I hope this description of my purpose is up to snuff for those of you on the teams and becomes a post I look back at one day after joining one myself as a humble reminder of where it all began and why I need to keep moving. Perhaps even writing it out like this has a great deal of utility in that regard. I look forward to the chance of being accepted into a circle and any wisdom I could glean from you all as I go along my journey.

~ WEF
 
23 y.o M

A.S degree. Gave up on trying to be the next great scientist to innovate some amazing thing to help the world.

Always wanted to serve my country in a high speed capacity. LEO academy confirmed my desires and ability to learn.

Going to work out an enlistment contract sometime soon. I don't think I'll try for any 18x or Opt 40 because I know it will take me more time than BCT and AIT to meet PT standards for SOF. It's definitely in my sights after I get in and get moving.

Ill suck up the training and experience and take it a day at a time until opportunities arise.
 
23 y.o M

A.S degree. Gave up on trying to be the next great scientist to innovate some amazing thing to help the world.

Always wanted to serve my country in a high speed capacity. LEO academy confirmed my desires and ability to learn.

Going to work out an enlistment contract sometime soon. I don't think I'll try for any 18x or Opt 40 because I know it will take me more time than BCT and AIT to meet PT standards for SOF. It's definitely in my sights after I get in and get moving.

Ill suck up the training and experience and take it a day at a time until opportunities arise.

The PT standards to excel in an Infantry position are no different than those for SOF, 18-25 y/o max or better. Just saying.
 
Hey!

I'm Joe, 25 Years of age, I am from the West coast originally but working out of Philly right now. I had started pursuing becoming a Pararescue Jumper a few years back but

due to an injury it pushed that dream out the window for a little bit. I got a job and well you know how quickly time flies. Then I met a guy who had just gotten out from being

a Pararescue Jumper and we had a long discussion and he gave me a lot of info and kind of re-lit that spark and now here I am starting the process all over again.

I am glad though because the last few years I have had some struggles which I think could help me down the line.

What I am doing to prepare this time; I am running and or swimming every day sometimes both, I am working to exceed the PAST requirements as I know that the more in shape

I am the easier (and I say that VERY lightly haha) the stressful times will be but at least it will make me better prepared. I am reading every book on Pararescue Jumpers I can get my hands on

watching every Youtube video and not just for becoming a PJ but all of them as I am sure I can still get some good info from each one. I am scouring amazing forums like this one soaking

up knowledge and of course putting it all to good use. I am working on my breathing and being able to hold my breath for long periods of time too. I am trying to find like minded individuals

near me as well or maybe Ex-mil that want to coach me or train with me.

Why Pararescue Jumper; First and foremost I have always been interested in EMT, I love flying, 1 + 1 = 2 right? But I just have always really wanted to help people

and I want to be the best that I can when I help those people and from my research on the Pararescue Jumper Pipeline the training meets my wants in this life and I like

the mission motto and that is what fits me. I just hope I have what it takes to fit with them.

Anyways I could go on all day but that is my summary

Thank you so much for all those who have contributed to helping all of us wannabe's try to fulfill a dream!
 
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Thanks for the post. Small issue here- there is no such thing as a Pararescue Jumper. There used to be, that's where the retronym PJ came from (PJ is what Pararescue Jumper was shortened to on the old flight forms), but that name isn't in use.

Pararescueman or PJ would be the appropriate verbiage.
 
Hello,

My name is Rob and I am 20 years old. Currently, I am getting my bachelor's degree in Marketing at a university in the southeast. After college, I aspire to earn the title of Officer in either the Marines or the Army, but I am leaning more towards the Marines. This is because it appears that Marines have a sense of pride, brotherhood, and purpose that is higher than that of the other branches. (no offense, of course, to any other branches)

If I were to join the Army, then my goal would be to eventually earn a position in the Ranger Regiment.
If I were to join the Marines, then my goal would be to eventually earn a position in MARSOC as an SOO.

I want to become a special operations operator for only one reason: to be in the fighting force that serves the country to extreme potential through extreme means (not trying to sound high speed) and do whatever it takes to keep our people safe in the United States, and liberate those that are oppressed around the world.
A person that is able to put everything on the line for the benefit of others is truly selfless; this is something that many more people should aspire to be.

I read a large amount of books on leadership, such as Marcus Aurelius' The Emperor's Handbook, Steven Covey's 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, and others. Reading personal anecdotes and philosophies is the best way for me to learn. Especially considering Marcus Aurelius was one of Rome's best emperors. He is a true Stoic, and he shows this both on and off the campaign trail of war.

My current course of action is raising my PFT to as high of a level as I can, without hurting myself in the process. Then, when the time comes to go into a recruiter or OSO to sign a contract, I will be as ready as someone can be in terms of fitness for what is to come. I play ultimate frisbee and box and have limited martial arts training in Taekwondo, so hopefully that will help as well.

Here are my current PFT scores (unofficial/self-timed):
1.5 mile run: 9:36
No time limit dead hang pull ups: 24
2min crunches: 74

I think there is a 3 mile run as well, but I am working up to that. Short distance has always been my thing so it's a difficult transition.
I am a strong swimmer as I am lifeguard, but definitely need to work on it.

I did a lot of track and field in high school (100m, 200m, 4x100m) so I am used to running. I run both timed LSD's and 1 milers every other week, training throughout the week to improve the next time.

When I look at an SOF Operator, I see pride. I see true selflessness and a willingness to serve the Country. I see a figure of excellence that has worked very hard to reach their level.
The Scout Oath states that "I will do my best to do my duty to God and my Country...". I intend to uphold my promise.

Thank you for taking time to help us newbies out!

RJ
 
@Rcjames1 .... stop with the "operator" stuff... it's a buzzword, real SOF guys don't use the word on a regular basis... plus it has picked up bad connotations in the SOF community since every swinging dick has started calling him/herself an "operator"... Operators answer telephones.

Um the Navy puts operator in their MOS for SEALs dude, I'm pretty sure that is what he is referring to.

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Um the Navy puts operator in their MOS for SEALs dude, I'm pretty sure that is what he is referring to.

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NSW Community Establishes New SO and SB Ratings

Isn't that the official term, though? TLDR20 is right; that's what I was referring to. I am not an SOF guy so I wasn't sure about that, and I wasn't sure what else to say. I'm not trying to be the "kill, boot" guy; I hope I've come off as more intelligent than that in my previous posts. :D
But I understand. What's the preferred terminology for someone in SOF?
 
Hello Everyone,

I am a 19 year old in the Army Delayed Entry Program with an 11x option 40 contract. What I found was a place where excellence is not a goal, rather it is the standard. I wholeheartedly believe I am the kind of individual that can achieve this standard and that is why it is my pursuit.
Here is some information to get an idea as to where I am physically. I am 5'9 and 140 lbs. I swam competitively until my Freshman year of High School. I have run cross country since 6th grade and dabbled in a Half-Iron triathlon this year. I did a mock PFT yesterday using strict and controlled form with the numbers below:
2 mile: 13:05
push ups: 57
sit ups: 71
pull ups: 15

I am no stud and I don't claim to be, so I need to improve these numbers before my ship date in a few months. I should be able to easily run below 13:00 but my push ups are where I really need to improve. I look forward to interacting on this site as I progress through my journey ahead.
 
I have had sometime to digest the last week. Grad week has been a whirlwind and I haven't had time to post here. I want to give some insight as a new guy who has benefited greatly from this site. Pardon the long post but I feel like my story can help some of you guys.

I have been on this site longer than my user profile lets on. DasBoot is my current title, but I first came up on the site in 2009 as "angryirishkid." I posted typical stupid shit, asking about cool guy schools and generally being a stupid 17 year old. I was all over the place but I stayed in line. Fast forward a year- I've been accepted to West Point prep (USMAPS). I applied for the academy for my parents, not thinking I would get in. My heart was set on hitting up the recruiter and heading to Sand Hill with an Op 40. Somehow I got in, and so began the family drama. I end up going to the prep school. Not for me but for everyone else. I quit that gig about a week in.

So here's lesson one- do what you want coming out of college or high school. Your parents are wonderful people but it is your path to walk. They are not the ones looking back to regret what could have been.

Lesson two- once a quitter does not make you a quitter for life. You will fail and probably quit. Everyone does. If you decide you want to go to RASP/SFAS/BUDS, and you've spent your youth bailing on jobs and quitting sports or whatever, do not let that define you. If there's any place to break that trend and make yourself into a resilient person it is the military. But you have to say "I am not going to keep running."

Now I'm back on the site after deleting my initial profile and going out in blaze of lameness (@Freefalling had to deal with my stupidity), I come back on as DasBoot. Name changed and all. I am a shit bag initially- I had a GF dump me, did a whole "goodbye cruel world!" Post and just generally acted like a giant douche. But I stayed on, low crawled through the forum for a bit, and eventually found a way to pull my head out of my ass.

Lesson 3- never go full retard.

So I stuck around and focused on the stories guys tell on here. The PT info is great but to be honest at least from the ARSOF side and USMC world, basic/OSUT will get you ready for RASP/BRC/SFAS. The PT is great on here but I honestly believe it will help myself and other new guys more than wannabes but that's another thread. I focused on learning about culture and lifestyle more than anything, making sure that this was what I wanted. A lot of dudes quit in pre-RASP when they see guys grappling in the bay and hear some jokes that would make the late Mr. Carlin facepalm. I knew coming in this is what I wanted.

Lesson 4- use this forum to figure out if this is for you.

So in short, don't let your shit bag teenage years define you. Do what you believe is best for you. Do not quit- every guy I hung around with in pre RASP who quit at Cole range, both times I went though, regrets it now. Do not go full retard. Take a deep breath before you post on here or make a major decision in the "real world." And learn from this site. It will be a motivator. Stay positive, laugh at yourself and keep on keeping on. Good luck guys.
 
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Any SOF wannabes looking at this thread need to read @DasBoot post. Read it and print it out and share it with your friends.

Holy shit man, absolutely outstanding. I can't tell you how proud we all are of your accomplishment.

But it's not just making it- you are owning your mistakes, accepting your problems, and most importantly- you're reaching down and helping those that aren't yet in your position.

Anyone (well, nearly) can make it through a SOF selection and hit the teams. But very, very few end up being leaders.

@DasBoot , you are on your way to leading men in combat. That deserves praise. Please let me be the first.

Well done.
 
Any SOF wannabes looking at this thread need to read @DasBoot post. Read it and print it out and share it with your friends.

Holy shit man, absolutely outstanding. I can't tell you how proud we all are of your accomplishment.

But it's not just making it- you are owning your mistakes, accepting your problems, and most importantly- you're reaching down and helping those that aren't yet in your position.

Anyone (well, nearly) can make it through a SOF selection and hit the teams. But very, very few end up being leaders.

@DasBoot , you are on your way to leading men in combat. That deserves praise. Please let me be the first.

Well done.


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Any SOF wannabes looking at this thread need to read @DasBoot post. Read it and print it out and share it with your friends.

Holy shit man, absolutely outstanding. I can't tell you how proud we all are of your accomplishment.

But it's not just making it- you are owning your mistakes, accepting your problems, and most importantly- you're reaching down and helping those that aren't yet in your position.

Anyone (well, nearly) can make it through a SOF selection and hit the teams. But very, very few end up being leaders.

@DasBoot , you are on your way to leading men in combat. That deserves praise. Please let me be the first.

Well done.
I've got a lot of work and a few tab checks ahead of me before all that can be a reality but I appreciate the feedback, it means a lot coming from you or anyone else in this community for that matter.
 
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