National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

This whole thing is ridiculous. "Equal protection under the law" seems to me that there should be no "protected classes." We're all either protected equally, or we're not. It seems to me that every violent crime has some element of "hate" to it, there doesn't need to be any special enhancement, IMO.
 
Marauder06 said:
This whole thing is ridiculous. "Equal protection under the law" seems to me that there should be no "protected classes." We're all either protected equally, or we're not. It seems to me that every violent crime has some element of "hate" to it, there doesn't need to be any special enhancement, IMO.
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It almost seems unconstitutional: you are basically getting punished twice for the same crime.
 
Marauder06 said:
This whole thing is ridiculous. "Equal protection under the law" seems to me that there should be no "protected classes." We're all either protected equally, or we're not. It seems to me that every violent crime has some element of "hate" to it, there doesn't need to be any special enhancement, IMO.
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Hate Crime Laws - YouTube

I'm not sure why these aren't embedding any longer...
 
So...would every barroom brawl between sister services be a hate crime? You probably wouldn't start throwing 'bows if they weren't Marines, you know?
 
That is simply a law to make someone feel more *special* than someone else and cause an ever greater rift between people than what already exists. Hate crimes was one of the worst pieces of legislation to ever be created in my lifetime. We - as Americans - are our absolute worst enemies when it comes to creating our own *issues.*
 
Rapid said:
In the face of a Banana Republic-tier election system, I am not surprised that American conservatives have had enough. I suppose it's now or never, that time to be "mostly peaceful".
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Our election system heavily favors the conservatives on the federal level.

These are the types of people most afraid of a "1984" style government, but would happily support a facist authoritarian leader if he says what the want.

These aren't people who support freedom or American ideals anymore than the Marxists BLM members they hate.
 
Cookie_ said:
Our election system heavily favors the conservatives on the federal level.

These are the types of people most afraid of a "1984" style government, but would happily support a facist authoritarian leader if he says what the want.

These aren't people who support freedom or American ideals anymore than the Marxists BLM members they hate.
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Are you really sure about that? I mean, really sure?

I know a guy, works in IT at NC State Univ, who is there. He is as milquetoast as it gets. I see him snapping a la Michael Douglas in Falling Down. He honestly believes the DNC has orchestrated a bloodless coup in this election. He thinks there is zero for redress with the government. Six months ago he was politically in the middle.

Scary times.
 
Devildoc said:
Are you really sure about that? I mean, really sure?

I know a guy, works in IT at NC State Univ, who is there. He is as milquetoast as it gets. I see him snapping a la Michael Douglas in Falling Down. He honestly believes the DNC has orchestrated a bloodless coup in this election. He thinks there is zero for redress with the government. Six months ago he was politically in the middle.

Scary times.
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I stand by my statement. That sounds like a person who never actually had any political philosophy himself, but was just a member of a team.
He feels his team was cheated, and he wants to do something about it.

I don't think it's more prone on one side or the other, but it is a big problem in America that politics is more akin to violent clashes between soccer clubs.
 
Cookie_ said:
I stand by my statement. That sounds like a person who never actually had any political philosophy himself, but was just a member of a team.
He feels his team was cheated, and he wants to do something about it.

I don't think it's more prone on one side or the other, but it is a big problem in America that politics is more akin to violent clashes between soccer clubs.
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I respect that. I think I used to feel more like that. I feel...less like that.
 

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