National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

[Ranger Psych]

You know, even in Europe where they had dedicated riot police that have to go toe to toe with Antifa all the time, Yellow Vests, etc.

Guess what they don't roll out for riot control? Crew Served Weapons.

Um.

Pretty sure these all qualify as "crew served" when we're talking about riot control weapon systems...

 

[Gunz]

I don't think we'll ever see water cannons used here...too reminiscent of a common response used in the South.

Birmingham, 63:

 

[Florida173]

People were calling for ADS to be deployed in DC for the inauguration..

 

[ThunderHorse]

Um.

Pretty sure these all qualify as "crew served" when we're talking about riot control weapon systems...

I know we're being pedantic here...but that's not what she was talking about. However, since we're now in the fully fledged age of Antifa in this country I wonder if we're going to have specialized riot police?

 

[RustyShackleford]

Most city and state police do. Then prosecutors indict a couple for doing their job and officers quit the team.

 

[ThunderHorse]

The Bee is great.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Kinda COVID related, more related to a Cop being a jackwagon. Hope he enjoys losing his job.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1354273257613119493

 

[Locksteady]

Kinda COVID related, more related to a Cop being a jackwagon. Hope he enjoys losing his job.

Everyone feels this way about police who enforce laws they want to violate.

 

[Locksteady]

Rest in peace, Officer Sicknick.

Brian Sicknick, Capitol Police Officer Slain By Mob, Lies In Honor In Rotunda
President Biden traveled to the Capitol to pay respects to Brian Sicknick, the officer who died from injuries sustained at the Capitol riot.

 

[Florida173]

Everyone feels this way about police who enforce laws they want to violate.

Sure.. but this wasn't a law. a violation of a city ordinance is not criminal and at best a fine. The cop quite literally escalated and continued to escalate inside a private establishment. He also suggested that he was not being cooperative after he had been disarmed and was indeed just standing there.

 

[Locksteady]

Sure.. but this wasn't a law.

Yes, it was.

Ordinance

Ordinance​

A law, statute, or regulation enacted by a Municipal Corporation.

An ordinance is a law passed by a municipal government. A municipality, such as a city, town, village, or borough, is a political subdivision of a state within which a municipal corporation has been established to provide local government to a population in a defined area.

a violation of a city ordinance is not criminal and at best a fine.

Nothing about this challenges what I said.

The cop quite literally escalated and continued to escalate inside a private establishment.

This often happens when dealing with noncompliant lawbreakers.

He also suggested that he was not being cooperative after he had been disarmed and was indeed just standing there.

And he is welcome to challenge that officer on his home turf - in court.

 

[ThunderHorse]

The moment the officer began the encounter he was hostile to the dude. He literally left the building, then the officer chased him with his taser drawn and was a complete and utter dickhead. He was literally compliant.

 

[Locksteady]

The moment the officer began the encounter he was hostile to the dude. He literally left the building, then the officer chased him with his taser drawn and was a complete and utter dickhead. He was literally compliant.

And if he wants to argue compliance in court against the camera footage, well.. good luck to him, then!

 

[JedisonsDad]

Curious where that was filmed. Seems like the guy was getting ready to say something about the governor.

I know in Florida, our governor said that mask laws and ordinances are illegal to enforce. Maybe the same situation where this was filmed?

I do think it was dumb that the cop told the man to leave, then followed him out of the store to have his power trip. Maybe if he started the encounter with the slightest bit of mutual respect, or even a tone that showed something other than hostility, he might have received the same in return.

 

[DA SWO]

Kinda COVID related, more related to a Cop being a jackwagon. Hope he enjoys losing his job.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1354273257613119493

Where did this happen at?
Cop just pissed off another pro-cop individual.

 

[Florida173]

Yes, it was.

Ordinance



Nothing about this challenges what I said.

This often happens when dealing with noncompliant lawbreakers.

And he is welcome to challenge that officer on his home turf - in court.

My point being that he wasn't committing a criminal act, but a municipal violation punishable by a fine. But thank you for being pedantic

And yet here we are.. The perpetrator of this heinous act in Waco Texas is only just demanding a public apology from the officer and department.
Waco PD investigating officer pulling taser on unmasked man


ETA: to that.. I don't even know what the fine to the individual is. I can only see the violation to the business for not requiring visitors. I'm sure there is one.. I mean it's on par with other city ordinances like littering..


ETA2: No citations had been given at this point, back in September, and they've been opting for educating apparently.

 

[Locksteady]

Maybe if he started the encounter with the slightest bit of mutual respect.

Hard-pressed to start off any more respectfully than, rather than just arresting someone actively breaking the law in front of signs explaining that it was illegal to do so, instead breathing an audible sigh before asking him where his mask was, stating that it was illegal not to be wearing one inside, and telling him to leave until he had one.

 

[JedisonsDad]

I’m curious about the gun. Last time I was there, Texas wasn’t an open carry state.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the city/county/whatever decided to go with “brandishing” just to save face and justify the tazer.

 

[JedisonsDad]

Hard-pressed to start off any more respectfully than, rather than just arresting someone actively breaking the law in front of signs explaining that it was illegal to do so, instead breathing an audible sigh before asking him where his mask was, stating that it was illegal not to be wearing one inside, and telling him to leave until he had one.

I think you’re grabbing at straws. It wasn’t just an audible sigh, he was barking a rhetorical question at him.

To play devil’s advocate, how did he know that the gentleman didn’t have a medical reason preventing him from wearing a mask? ADA laws protect people like that.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Where did this happen at?
Cop just pissed off another pro-cop individual.

@Florida173 found it. Waco, Texas.

I’m curious about the gun. Last time I was there, Texas wasn’t an open carry state.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the city/county/whatever decided to go with “brandishing” just to save face and justify the tazer.

If he has a Concealed Carry license in Texas that then allows him to open carry, apparently since 2016.

Open Carry | AustinTexas.gov.