National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

[pardus]

Coming to a city near me:

In Durham, unarmed responders will answer 911 calls for those having a mental health crisis :: WRAL.com

Do I think this can work? IF the call screener and telecommunicator input is thorough enough, IF they can semi-guarantee LE back-up, IF they can ensure safety for both the responder as well as the caller, then yes.

I spoke with a British social worker who told me that she is the first responder to calls like this, though there is a cop there. She does the knocking and the talking, the cop is just her backup if things go sideways. I can see value in it if done properly, but it still raises my eyebrows.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Perhaps don't shoot at cops? Of course there will be a return with volume. And got the old Sleeve bag LeBron inserting his opinion on his hometown.

https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/l...eased/95-e6339f9b-05f4-47b8-8eae-11cbbf70e220

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Dear NYPD/America,

Because the fitness test is too difficult, is not the reason qualified candidates are not applying to be cops anymore.

The cops that you do have remaining better hope that backup only needs to leap a chain-link fence and not a brick wall.

NYPD makes fitness tests easier after increased retirements

Fuck me, I just cannot wrap my head around the decision makers of this world anymore.

 

[SpitfireV]

To be fair I've always thought that runs other than sprints or shorter distances could probably be replaced by something more appropriate to today's policing. It seems like a relic from the past.

 

[ThunderHorse]

To be fair I've always thought that runs other than sprints or shorter distances could probably be replaced by something more appropriate to today's policing. It seems like a relic from the past.

Like a three rep Bronco? People would complain about that. A two mile run ain't no relic. It's great for knowing "general fitness". But I'd definitely be up for something even more strenuous.

 

[AWP]

LEO's, what's the average length of your foot chases? What's your longest?

 

[Gunz]

I spoke with a British social worker who told me that she is the first responder to calls like this, though there is a cop there. She does the knocking and the talking, the cop is just her backup if things go sideways. I can see value in it if done properly, but it still raises my eyebrows.

I can see it working in the UK, but not here. Plenty of unhinged people on both sides of the Pond. But here…guns.

 

[SpitfireV]

Like a three rep Bronco? People would complain about that. A two mile run ain't no relic. It's great for knowing "general fitness". But I'd definitely be up for something even more strenuous.

Yeah it's fine for testing cardio but 1. How does that relate to being able to grapple an offender, 2. relate to wearing a stab vest all day 3. to the day to day job? You could make that argument for the walls too in fairness but I'd counter they're a reasonable agility test.

The wooden wall is like 70/30 technique/strength too. The NYPD might have had better results if they'd tell people that? I don't know what they've been doing though.

 

[amlove21]

Perhaps don't shoot at cops? Of course there will be a return with volume. And got the old Sleeve bag LeBron inserting his opinion on his hometown.

https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/l...eased/95-e6339f9b-05f4-47b8-8eae-11cbbf70e220

I grew up in a small suburb of Akron (literally 5 minutes from this shooting).

Akron has *always* had the reputation of heavy handed policing. This is certainly messed up, from all sides. Bad policing, bad actions leading to the bad policing... truly a tragedy.

 

[ThunderHorse]

So...anytime I see the AG at a press conference to announce prosecutions I know it's a political stunt. For what purpose, I do not know. But let's reopen the wound of Breonna Taylor for the nation.

Four current, former Louisville police officers federally charged in Breonna Taylor's death

 

[Devildoc]

@Ooh-Rah , let us know what happens to Omar in today's race!

Putting here because she was a thing behind the defund movement.

 

[Blizzard]

@Ooh-Rah , let us know what happens to Omar in today's race!

Putting here because she was a thing behind the defund movement.

Her district is so blue that even a smurf would look pale. The Somali population there is huge and they love her. Don't expect any change.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Her district is so blue that even a smurf would look pale. The Somali population there is huge and they love her. Don't expect any change.

I will be interested to see how this all comes out, I’ve seen a number of articles recently stating the Somali population is displeased with her and how she represent them.

 

[Marauder06]

I will be interested to see how this all comes out, I’ve seen a number of articles recently stating the Somali population is displeased with her and how she represent them.

I wonder if they are actually displeased enough for them to not vote for her anymore. I kind of doubt it.

 

[Blizzard]

I wonder if they are actually displeased enough for them to not vote for her anymore. I kind of doubt it.

That's exactly it.

This district is a Democrat stronghold. They've held the seat since 1963 with no Republican getting more than 40% of the vote in half a century. Those aren't good odds to overcome. Best shot is for a competing Democrat to remove her.

Just checked...the current Democrat challenger trails her in the Primary right now 48 - 51%.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

I wonder if they are actually displeased enough for them to not vote for her anymore. I kind of doubt it.

Looks like she will pull this out, but a lot closer than I thought it would be. I’m sure it’s a lot closer than she thought it would be too.

 

[Blizzard]

Looks like she will pull this out, but a lot closer than I thought it would be. I’m sure it’s a lot closer than she thought it would be too.

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It means she'll win re-election in Nov as well.

 

[Blizzard]

Looks like she will pull this out, but a lot closer than I thought it would be. I’m sure it’s a lot closer than she thought it would be too.

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An interesting graphic that depicts just how strong her support is in various neighborhoods in her district - it speaks volumes as to the views of Mpls residents; they deserve what they vote for:

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Meanwhile in Minneapolis….

Minneapolis teachers union contract calls for layoffs of white teachers first

A Minneapolis teachers union contract stipulates that white teachers will be laid off or reassigned before “educators of color” in the event Minneapolis Public Schools (MPS) needs to reduce staff.

After the Minneapolis Federation of Teachers (MFT) and MPS struck a deal on March 25 to end a 14-day teacher strike, the two sides drew up and ratified a new collective bargaining agreement complete with various proposals.

One of the proposals dealt with “educators of color protections.” The agreement states that if a non-white teacher is subject to excess, MPS must excess a white teacher with the “next least” seniority.

 

[Marauder06]

Meanwhile in Minneapolis….

Minneapolis teachers union contract calls for layoffs of white teachers first

A Minneapolis teachers union contract stipulates that white teachers will be laid off or reassigned before “educators of color” in the event Minneapolis Public Schools (MPS) needs to reduce staff.

After the Minneapolis Federation of Teachers (MFT) and MPS struck a deal on March 25 to end a 14-day teacher strike, the two sides drew up and ratified a new collective bargaining agreement complete with various proposals.

One of the proposals dealt with “educators of color protections.” The agreement states that if a non-white teacher is subject to excess, MPS must excess a white teacher with the “next least” seniority.

That policy is... pretty racist.