National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)
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Best take I have found yet-
I don't think he "stepped in front" of it at all. I think he was standing offset to the vehicle, most likely IAW his training, and then the suspect swerved her car in his direction, gunned the engine, and hit him with her vehicle.
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As my old man probably told me more than once, if you go looking for trouble, don't be surprised when you find it.
This story has made me pause even longer than my normal to digest.
We might be cooked, chat.
We might be cooked, chat.
I am not excusing or agreeing with any behavior the officer took, but I will say, if you hit me and drag me with a car performing the same sort of stop 6 months prior... I might approach that next stop a little more aggressively.
EDIT- my bad @Blizzard missed your post, thanks for posting first. My above point stands
EDIT- my bad @Blizzard missed your post, thanks for posting first. My above point stands
I am sure Minnesota will handle this fairly, they have a long track record of not cowtowing to public opinon in highly-publicized events.
Useful for “did the policeman feel at threat of deadly force”.
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So we're still ignoring why she was there in the first place, hm? She's not the victim, the victims were those officers that she had put in harm's way.
What kind of mother abandons her three children for a seditious cause? Not a good one. Not sorry but this is the only narrative that needs to be seen here. I am not going to allow a victim blaming narrative where the officers being victims of sedition gets put under the microscope for what a nefarious person had done.
Why was her vehicle in a blocking position? Why did she attempt to flee and take out anyone when she was going to be detained for obstruction?
What kind of mother abandons her three children for a seditious cause? Not a good one. Not sorry but this is the only narrative that needs to be seen here. I am not going to allow a victim blaming narrative where the officers being victims of sedition gets put under the microscope for what a nefarious person had done.
Why was her vehicle in a blocking position? Why did she attempt to flee and take out anyone when she was going to be detained for obstruction?
Topkick
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That's a left spin. All I see is an officer telling her to get out of the car and then getting hit by the car as she flees. Can't muster up any tears.
A. Stay out of their way and mind your business
B. Follow the law enforcement officer's instructions
It was more of a rhetorical question.
More importantly- a fight or flight response “she was just trying to get away” and “the officer shouldn’t have been in front of the car”…
He wasn’t. She wasn’t. She put her car in reverse to go to her right versus her left. She has outs left; furthermore, even with *no outs* a truly panicked person with no training would have taken the left no matter the outs available. Car was already in drive- you just panic and hit the gas.
Know what she wouldn’t have done? Shift into reverse, hit brakes, shift into drive, turn wheel towards officers, hit gas. Either the argument is she’s monkey brain level or she’s not.
She wasn’t.
He wasn’t. She wasn’t. She put her car in reverse to go to her right versus her left. She has outs left; furthermore, even with *no outs* a truly panicked person with no training would have taken the left no matter the outs available. Car was already in drive- you just panic and hit the gas.
Know what she wouldn’t have done? Shift into reverse, hit brakes, shift into drive, turn wheel towards officers, hit gas. Either the argument is she’s monkey brain level or she’s not.
She wasn’t.
ThunderHorse
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For those paying attention, her wheel spins on the ice, when she points the wheels forward, look where the officer's feet are (both of them for that matter) to me both are on ice. The only reason this guy slides instead of stumbles is because he's on ice. If he wasn't on ice, who knows what we're talking about. Signed, a guy who has been hit by a car.
Another shooting, 2 folks… in Portland.
I was wrong earlier. We are DEFINITELY cooked, chat.
I was wrong earlier. We are DEFINITELY cooked, chat.
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Rioting is the most stupid thing to do especially with this Administration.
I can't wait to see how long they last in the cold.
ThunderHorse
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The security company should probably terminate their contract.
Although the only reason ICE is probably going to McDs is for the value meal.
Although the only reason ICE is probably going to McDs is for the value meal.
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