National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

[amlove21]

So, in Portland yesterday, government officials and buildings were warned that there was a ‘credible threat of a VBIED possibly being used against federal buildings’.

What in the literal fuck. Over.

All federal buildings close in Portland amid threat

ETA- Here’s an example of (probably) highly effective tactics to quell this sort of thing.

Tennessee governor signs bill increasing punishments for certain protests

 

[ThunderHorse]

So, in Portland yesterday, government officials and buildings were warned that there was a ‘credible threat of a VBIED possibly being used against federal buildings’.

What in the literal fuck. Over.

All federal buildings close in Portland amid threat

Brother, if anything I'm surprised it has taken this long for that stuff to occur. We're fast approaching 100 days of unrest in Portland, the City is not allowing their law enforcement to do their job, the DA drops charges every morning, and the State is not doing anything either. This could have been whittled down if through pure attrition by holding all of the people were arrested for serious crimes and prosecuting them. There has been an abdication of sense and responsibility in Portland and Salem. The Black Bloc continues to evolve their TTPs on a daily basis. I truly have to wonder how the local elections will turn out with the Black Bloc going into neighborhoods and harassing people.

Last night PPB Precinct North was attacked.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1297214893993545728

https://twitter.com/x/status/1297088438601039872

In neighborhoods-not the only video, there's plenty out there.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1297040373886279682

These are not protests, these are organized riots and have been since the beginning. The Black Bloc infrastructure specifically in Oregon and Portland is significant. In 2017 the mayor allowed an "Autonomous Zone" to exist for five months.

 

[medicchick]

It's not the first VBIED unfortunately. My company had to tow one a month or so ago after the bomb squad disarmed it. We had to store it at the indoor lit for a bit until PPB had room at theirs. Fun times...

 

[racing_kitty]

It's not the first VBIED unfortunately. My company had to tow one a month or so ago after the bomb squad disarmed it. We had to store it at the indoor lit for a bit until PPB had room at theirs. Fun times...

My professional opinion: "Well, goddamn. Can't say I'm surprised, except that they're smart enough not to blow themselves up in the process. That surprises me."

 

[amlove21]

My professional opinion: "Well, goddamn. Can't say I'm surprised, except that they're smart enough not to blow themselves up in the process. That surprises me."

Like but also hate. Can we get a button for that? Like, a “This makes me murderously angry but also good point” button or nah. Someone get a useless ass red tag on this.

Oh. It me. Yeeet.

 

[medicchick]

My professional opinion: "Well, goddamn. Can't say I'm surprised, except that they're smart enough not to blow themselves up in the process. That surprises me."

Oh trust me we were all surprised too.

 

[AWP]

If the VBIED threat isn't from a white Toyota Corolla, then it isn't real.

 

[Marauder06]

If the VBIED threat isn't from a white Toyota Corolla, then it isn't real.

"BOLO: white Toyota, downtown Kabul"

"Um... thanks S2..."

Downtown Kabul:

 

[AWP]

For those of you not in on the "joke": Every. Single. Day we were briefed about a VBIED threat from....?

A white Toyota Corolla.

No lie, I am dead serious, every DAY there was a VBIED threat from Intel about a white Toyota Corolla.

Ponder how stupid that sounds. It happened. Every. DAY. Bagram? Kabul? Kandahar? Jalalabad? Boondocks in N2K? MeS? Name the location, the city, the mud hut, the wadi, the mountain, terrain feature, b-hut...hell, anything and a white Toyota Corolla was a VBIED threat.

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

 

[Hungry_Dog]

While some of the things discussed here have not happened yet, where's the line where one should see it as a legitimate threat?

Ya'll are talking about vbied threats now.

 

[Deleted member 11415]

Ponder how stupid that sounds.

You don't go to war with the gear you need, You go to war with the gear you have!

Which, although true, reminds me of the same thing and I like to ask the same ponder question .

 

[GOTWA]

For those of you not in on the "joke": Every. Single. Day we were briefed about a VBIED threat from....?

A white Toyota Corolla.

No lie, I am dead serious, every DAY there was a VBIED threat from Intel about a white Toyota Corolla.

Ponder how stupid that sounds. It happened. Every. DAY. Bagram? Kabul? Kandahar? Jalalabad? Boondocks in N2K? MeS? Name the location, the city, the mud hut, the wadi, the mountain, terrain feature, b-hut...hell, anything and a white Toyota Corolla was a VBIED threat.

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

We have intel that says the Taliban are planning an attack against U.S./Coalition Forces in the next 48 hours in Afghanistan. Stay alert and keep your heads on a swivel boys.

Sorry, but don't clutter my email.

 

[ThunderHorse]

After 88 days of violence in Portland, there was a "proud boys" demonstration in Portland that was of course immediately "counter protested" by BLM/Black Bloc. Of course the Proud boys came "strapped" with industrial pepper spray dispensers and so did the Black Bloc. So you have two fringe groups "demonstrating" against each other.

The Blue checks on twitter of course only going after the "proud boys".

https://twitter.com/x/status/1297368960497848323

https://twitter.com/x/status/1297594729044021248

My guess is that the "proud boys" are actually Oregonians from outlaying counties that are done with this invasion and wanted to demonstrate peaceably. Of course they came with stuff to protect themselves after learning from the Black Bloc's tactics.

However, of course at night the "Proud Boys" left and the Black Bloc burned various things. So earlier if you go through this, Antifa put a teddy bear in the guillotine, and here they put two American flags in the Guillotine and then set the flags on fire.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1297517521818382336

https://twitter.com/x/status/1297518236431351808

 

[Marauder06]

^this is exactly what happens when the government fails to enforce its own laws and protect its own citizens.

One of the fundamental aspects of "sovereignty" and governmental legitimacy is a monopoly on violence. When the government creates a "violence vacuum," someone is ALWAYS going to fill it. As we saw in Iraq, if the government doesn't keep people from carrying out violence against each other, and if it doesn't protect the rights of its citizens against violent attack ("counter-protest" in this case being akin to "political violence to keep other citizens from exercising their rights), the people under attack are going to turn to people and organizations who will fill those roles.

That is VERY dangerous for a society and a government.

 

[DA SWO]

This shit started 4 years ago when people at Trump rally's were attacked and democrat mayors told the cops to stand down.

It won't stop with a Biden win, and will worsen with a Trump win.

 

[Ranger Psych]

Multinomah county's dumb

 

[Blizzard]

Well fuck.

did you boys really shoot him in the back?

Louisiana police shoot black man 'with a knife' as he walked away — Daily Mail

Kenosha polic today...
WATCH NOW: State DOJ will probe officer-involved shooting; man in serious condition | Local News | kenoshanews.com

 

[CQB]

isn't she a member of the Socialist Alternative party?

EDIT: just looked her up, yep...first socialist voted into office. " She was the first socialist to win a citywide election in Seattle since Anna Louise Strong was elected to the school board in 1916. "

I had no idea how screwed up the NW is.

Yep, she’s a SAP.

 

[Ranger Psych]

Kid doesn't realize said vehicle has things called firing ports.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1297770791891656706

 

[ThunderHorse]

Kid doesn't realize said vehicle has things called firing ports.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1297770791891656706

Brandishing and pointing a rifle at an armored vehicle like that is pretty dumb. Are we now at the point where the Black Bloc is going to assemble armed and going toe to toe? For the most part, when deadly force could have been used during this period of unrest, no LEA has employed deadly force. Wonder why Law Enforcement have armored vehicles?