National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

Judge ruled probable cause do not exist for and dismissed the 3rd Degree Murder charge against Chauvin this morning. No additional details behind the decision were included in this article:
Judge dismisses 3rd-degree murder charge against Derek Chauvin, other charges remain

Here is the statute for the 3rd Degree requirement:
Sec. 609.195 MN Statutes

The decision is notable because 3rd degree charge is what a former Minneapolis officer was convicted of in a wrongful shooting of Justine Damond a few years ago. To me, while the 2nd degree murder charge still stands, really, only the manslaughter charge is viable.

Judge Cahill issued a 107 page order this morning. When I find a good breakdown, I'll share.
 
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So the Pennsylvania Governor is another one of those "mostly peaceful" types.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1321231946702270466

For context if you didn't read anything or see the video.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1320918523070337026

What de-escalation are they supposed to do here? They retreat, concede territory, and he continues to not follow orders, he then starts walking straight at the officer with the knife in his hand.

That's a clean shoot.

Background? Violent felon.

Action News Investigation: Who was Walter Wallace Jr., the man shot by Philadelphia police?
 
ThunderHorse said:
So the Pennsylvania Governor is another one of those "mostly peaceful" types.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1321231946702270466

For context if you didn't read anything or see the video.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1320918523070337026

What de-escalation are they supposed to do here? They retreat, concede territory, and he continues to not follow orders, he then starts walking straight at the officer with the knife in his hand.

That's a clean shoot.

Background? Violent felon.

Action News Investigation: Who was Walter Wallace Jr., the man shot by Philadelphia police?
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They obviously mishandled it. Here is the new approved way of confronting a violent individual, please note the professionalism.
 
As we continue to see with these "protests", it's become incredibly clear there isn't any police shooting involving a black person that these "activists" would ever find acceptable.

As has been stated here in numerous posts, facts no longer matter. Logic, reason, and personal accountability are not factors either.
 
ThunderHorse said:
What de-escalation are they supposed to do here? They retreat, concede territory, and he continues to not follow orders, he then starts walking straight at the officer with the knife in his hand.
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The obvious question for me was why didn't either officer on site even attempt using any non-lethal incapacitating tools like Tasers first in the lead-up to his charge while the cars still occluded his path?

The answer, it turns out, wasn't "we couldn't take the chance with this violent knife-wielding felon":
[Police Commissioner] Outlaw has said the officers involved in the shooting did not have Tasers, which deliver an electric shock that temporarily stuns the target.

Approximately a third of the police force of 2,301 officers have completed proper training to carry Tasers and are required to carry them on duty, according to The Philadelphia Inquirer.
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A problem that increased and targeted funding would help resolve, and the two officers cannot be blamed for not first using what they weren't even issued.

Fortunately...
Philadelphia legislators pledged to boost police department funding to ensure every officer is equipped with a Taser following the fatal police shooting of a Black man this week.

On Wednesday, Council President Darrell Clarke committed to immediately transferring as much as $9.5 million for the purchase of the non-lethal weapons, although the exact amount needed to outfit the entire force with Tasers remained unclear.

“If the police say we need some additional money to accelerate the purchase of Tasers, that’s a simple ask,” Clarke said while flanked by a handful of members of City Council outside City Hall.
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A great example for other cities to follow.

City Council looks to boost police funding to purchase Tasers
 
Locksteady said:
The obvious question for me was why didn't either officer on site even attempt using any non-lethal incapacitating tools like Tasers first in the lead-up to his charge while the cars still occluded his path?
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Why is that an obvious question? Have you ever attempted to disarm a knife-wielding attacker using non-lethal means?

By the way, the Taser issue is a red herring.
 
policemedic said:
Why is that an obvious question?
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Do you mean, why is that an obvious question for me? If so, that is because I would expect non-lethal incapacitating measures to be sought out and applied in lieu of applying lethal measures, when possible and feasible.
policemedic said:
Have you ever attempted to disarm a knife-wielding attacker using non-lethal means?
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Yes.
policemedic said:
By the way, the Taser issue is a red herring.
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It's not evident the Philadelphia Police Department feels the same.
 

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