National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

Ooh-Rah said:
So frustrated that we’ve come to a place where we cannot say, “I support the mission of those officers, but man did they dick-the-dog on this one”.
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I'm just as frustrated that we've come to a place where civilians and the media think its okay to contantly disrupt law enforcement operations.
 
Ooh-Rah said:
After watching literal dozens of angles of this thing, and trusting my eyes more than I trust anything FOX, CNN, Trump and especially Noem have to say, I’ve come to the following conclusion: what a waste.

A waste of an officer’s career
A waste of that woman’s life

There was a time when I hero worshipped members of SOF, I’ve learned over the years that not all of them are worthy of that worship.

Same thing with cops.

Same thing with governmental leaders, even the ones I voted for (speaking to you President Trump).

I listened to Noem’s statement and kept asking myself if she was watching the same videos I was watching (i’m still trying to find the snowbank she was referencing)

At least in the old days the Government made an half-assed attempt to cover shit up, now they just straight up lie and expect people to accept it as truth. (Again, speaking to you Mr. President).

Yes, this woman should not have resisted arrest. But no one will ever be able to convince me that she deserved to die for it.

So frustrated that we’ve come to a place where we cannot say, “I support the mission of those officers, but man did they dick-the-dog on this one”.
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In what way?
 
AWP said:
Legit question for LEO's here:

The agent standing in front of the vehicle, is that a standard practice or a poor job by the guy or what? Outside looking in, why would an officer put themselves in such a vulnerable position? She's hardly the first or last to use a vehicle as a weapon or to panic (whatever her motives, I don't care) and hit the gas.
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I think he was thinking 'if I block her she won't move.' But she did. It's a 50/50 play in that legally you can do either, block her or stand aside.

There is case law that does not support the officer shooting, Felix vs Barnes (SCOTUS, May 2025), but there's also some wiggle room. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out.
 
AWP said:
Legit question for LEO's here:

The agent standing in front of the vehicle, is that a standard practice or a poor job by the guy or what? Outside looking in, why would an officer put themselves in such a vulnerable position? She's hardly the first or last to use a vehicle as a weapon or to panic (whatever her motives, I don't care) and hit the gas.
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This is allegedly the CBP policy on the matter:

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Here's the thing though, the videos pretty clearly show him starting off offset to the front right of the vehicle, i.e. not in front of it.

The driver swung her car around to face him and then drove straight at him, apparently hitting him with the vehicle.
 
The event is a national tragedy - first and foremost, it cost someone their life. Now her wife is sad. The child they were apparently raising is going to grow up in a home even more dysfunctional than it was a few days ago. The officer will have a fatal shooting looming over him - justified or not - public opinion will be skewed yet another 5or 10 or 15 degrees from what it SHOULD be - because the legacy media lies to create ratings.
The failing state governor is literally declaring that the people of his state are at war with the federal government...
...not to mention the billions of dollars in fraud those people are dealing with

Beyond - that - the world is no better or no worse of today than it was a few days ago. National level democrats that "should" be acting like adults are openly supporting and further cultivating the violent radical rhetoric and behavior behavior of these corrupt chuckleheads form the land of 10,0000 idiots...
...and nothing is going to change in the near term

Meanwhile, PDF files with global reach and seemingly endless resources live consequence free.
Flat earthers still exist.
My coffee is getting cold.
 
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Topkick said:
I'm just as frustrated that we've come to a place where civilians and the media think its okay to contantly disrupt law enforcement operations.
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I'd like to know why no one is asking this very important question: Why was she there in the first place? That's sedition, organized sedition. Why are we thinking that that it's the government that needs to held responsible here when it's more than plainly obvious that an organized group with leadership, is the ones who need to be held accountable.
 
Ooh-Rah said:
After watching literal dozens of angles of this thing, and trusting my eyes more than I trust anything FOX, CNN, Trump and especially Noem have to say, I’ve come to the following conclusion: what a waste.

A waste of an officer’s career
A waste of that woman’s life

There was a time when I hero worshipped members of SOF, I’ve learned over the years that not all of them are worthy of that worship.

Same thing with cops.

Same thing with governmental leaders, even the ones I voted for (speaking to you President Trump).

I listened to Noem’s statement and kept asking myself if she was watching the same videos I was watching (i’m still trying to find the snowbank she was referencing)

At least in the old days the Government made an half-assed attempt to cover shit up, now they just straight up lie and expect people to accept it as truth. (Again, speaking to you Mr. President).

Yes, this woman should not have resisted arrest. But no one will ever be able to convince me that she deserved to die for it.

So frustrated that we’ve come to a place where we cannot say, “I support the mission of those officers, but man did they dick-the-dog on this one”.
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No disrespect intended here, but you are blaming the wrong persons here. An organized, funded, seditious group with leaders, scouts, and agitators are doing criminal things whose sole purpose is to obstruct federal law enforcement.

WHY ARE THEY THERE AT ALL is whom is to be blamed, questioned, investigated, held personally responsible.

You made a good argument if that was the actual premise, but this wasn't the narrative here. We have a real threat to our nation going on, and this needs to be addressed, not shunned and hidden, ignored even.

The officer was justified. She made her choices, she wanted to be there to do nefarious things. He woke up that day doing a job that he signed up for to do immigration law enforcement. She woke up and was told to be somewhere and to do whatever was needed to obstruct. How she went about it was a decision no one forced her to do, she had done it on her own accord. Then she panicked when the finding out portion of her effing around happened.

I am a human being with feelings and compassion myself here. However I have none, zero, for evil human beings. She was a mother right? We were told she was the nicest person in the world. Newsflash, brother! Nice people, actual nice people by the definition of, is a person who doesn't do these things and abandoning her kid for a radical, seditious cause, is the furthest from being nice don't you think? She abandoned her three children just to be there. Make it make sense where this "nice" is stemming from???

I respectfully disagree with your statements. It's past time we blame the ones needing to be held accountable with the ones who did direct action against federal laws and those charged and sworn in it's enforcement of. These laws are legal. I am not going to blame the soldier or in this case, an officer of following legal orders. This isn't Hitler and his generals giving illegal orders here. Furthest from it. I am not going to accept any other narrative but this.
 
The Quartermaster said:
I'd like to know why no one is asking this very important question: Why was she there in the first place? That's sedition, organized sedition. Why are we thinking that that it's the government that needs to held responsible here when it's more than plainly obvious that an organized group with leadership, is the ones who need to be held accountable.
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Because bad people, like the governor, are zealously stirring discontent because of their broken souls. As a result, bad people NEVER ask the questions that need to be asked. Instead, they just make baseless accusations that drive discontent and unrest.
Decent people "expect more" out of the police - as a result - when Law Enforcement fails to act perfectly -even when under extreme duress - decent people tend to blame them completely with the suspect being innocent until proven guilty.
As a result, "the victims" of LEAs less than perfect response get a pass - or sympathy - or martyr status.

I've read elsewhere - this same LEA was hospitalized with injuries during a separate incident where he was dragged by an illegal alien that was also a violent criminal offender that had been recently released by the Walz-State
...dragged almost 300 feet if the story is true

How many of us would be light on the trigger if we had already been dragged by a car once - and the person in front of me was clearly content on putting me through that AGAIN???

BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG...
...BANG BANG

...freeze

It's everywhere - I support our troops, "but"
I back the blue, "but"
I voted for that guy "but"

Sure - I can support whats going on, but...
...and to what end?

Trump isn't handling the Epstein bit the way he promised...
...but
I'm not living in a Harris Walz American either

Feds are increasingly well known for having itchy trigger fingers, powerful union support, a knack for shooting your dog, and the ability to travel to another continent to arrest "a drug dealer" while somehow being unable to figure out exactly WHO was on the receiving end of the human trafficking charges that were levied against Epstein and Maxwell.
...the IRS will catch your fucking ass for claiming "Buttons" as a dependent on your taxes
...and yet cant figure out how Walz lost 9 billion dollars
...the ATF needs to know if you buy more than one gun a day
...but the DOD gets a pass because they can't track $2.3 trillion in transactions due to outdated, incompatible financial systems.

And here we are again - up in arms because another shit stirring activist caught a bullet.

This is just outrageous. I'm outraged at how outrageous this outrage has become.
Rinse
Repeat
 
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Blizzard said:
I said it before, I'll say it again...

What a shitshow.

Everyone is in a race to control their narratives, no matter how asinine they may be.

2026 is off to a banger start.
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That event was a big Rorschach test, people are seeing what they want to see. The truth doesn't matter. Kyle Rittenhouse was that way, George Floyd was that way, Charlie Kirk was that way.
 
DA SWO said:
At what point in time did he step in front of the vehicle?
When it was parked? or when it started to move.
Turn the steering wheel, step on the gas and boom I am suddenly in front of a moving vehicle.
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I don't think he "stepped in front" of it at all. I think he was standing offset to the vehicle, most likely IAW his training, and then the suspect swerved her car in his direction, gunned the engine, and hit him with her vehicle.
 

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