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National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)
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It's clear. Here is video of the part I described.
Dragon Wok surveillance video shows moments before George Floyd arrest
What's not clear is what happened after he was brought over to the other patrol vehicle that resulted in him being on the ground with an officer kneeling on his neck.
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I think your question was fair. I don't know that this was truly racially motivated; I'm not sure race really play a role here. But, hey, let's not let that get in the way of a "good time".
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Yeah, I'm sure there were some but there are plenty of fuckwits there as well.
Fucking shit show. Many cop friends of mine, most are calling the cops out for the abuse/murder of Mr. Floyd. A couple cop friends of mine are reserving judgment till further investigation.
My take as a paramedic/former SWAT medic? Positional asphyxia kills, I've treated it, I've seen hyped cops holding dudes down after a chase and I have politely intervened by saying, bro, roll him over so I can check him out.
I've educated cops on this and excited delirium (probably not that for this case), many are positive about understanding it and will call us I'd suspected.
That said, I'm not sure what constitutes murder, I'm not a cop or lawyer but this cop is responsible for the death of Mr. Floyd when all the cop needed to do was roll him onto his side when Mr. Floyd was begging, should have never been in that position anyhow.
Now, good cops, like my brother in law and many friends, including our very own, Policemedic, all that abide by their oaths, upholding our constitution will, again, be labeled as pigs, crooked and any other name.
Meanwhile, what was something I would definitely stand behind, of the peaceful protests over his death, turns into hoodlums, needing a reason to loot, burn their own hoods.
You lost me when you went from wanting justice, Mr. Floyd received no due process, instead, is dead, now, a fucking abortion.
Keep your heads on swivels...
My take as a paramedic/former SWAT medic? Positional asphyxia kills, I've treated it, I've seen hyped cops holding dudes down after a chase and I have politely intervened by saying, bro, roll him over so I can check him out.
I've educated cops on this and excited delirium (probably not that for this case), many are positive about understanding it and will call us I'd suspected.
That said, I'm not sure what constitutes murder, I'm not a cop or lawyer but this cop is responsible for the death of Mr. Floyd when all the cop needed to do was roll him onto his side when Mr. Floyd was begging, should have never been in that position anyhow.
Now, good cops, like my brother in law and many friends, including our very own, Policemedic, all that abide by their oaths, upholding our constitution will, again, be labeled as pigs, crooked and any other name.
Meanwhile, what was something I would definitely stand behind, of the peaceful protests over his death, turns into hoodlums, needing a reason to loot, burn their own hoods.
You lost me when you went from wanting justice, Mr. Floyd received no due process, instead, is dead, now, a fucking abortion.
Keep your heads on swivels...
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Not surprised. He was apyxitated. He had chances to survive, multiple times, including not being forced and held into that position, brain anoxia starts 3 to 4 mins, resp arrest, cardiac arrest soon after.
Because, many folks are kept and believe in the victim mentality, fanned by the government and media. Gotta maintain that narrative of racial hatred instead of fucking cunt, dick head cops not doing their job.
Lots of good cops will suffer now, the cronies like Sharpton, Jackson, Obama will weigh in too.
I won't be ignorant and say, there are not obvious race issues in our country but not all is race related.
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Agreed. Some people are just assholes.
Alot of people who share that mindset believe in systemic racism, IE the systems we have as a society and utilize with our police forces create an environment in which black/brown suspects are treated much more harshly than their white counterparts are.
It's why you may be seeing a bunch of posts pointing out that some white mass shooters (Charleston Church/El Paso, mostly) are seemingly better treated by the police than minorities.
Whether racist or not, it's dogshit policing.
ETA: Stuff like this doesn't help with the issue
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Here's hoping for CS and water cannon's. Maybe even some old fashioned shields and batons for head smashing.
This highlights the issues people had with Kamala Harris:
no matter what their politics are, people who are in positions to help reform/improve policing never seem to make attempts to do that while they're in a position of power, because they dont want to appear as "anti-LEO"/"weak on crime"
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