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It should absolutely make anyone looking at the organization question exactly what's going on and where the money is going.
National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)
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Brill
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I think the real eyebrow raising part is that BLM has been able to successfully market “white guilt” yet who benefits?
Baltimore, a city with heavy minority population, is full of crime, low literacy, unemployment, terrible housing, etc.
BLMs coffers are FULL yet blacks lives don’t seem to be improving. Why?
In the 70's, I spent a lot of time very close to an indian reservation in WA state. The majority of housing on that "res" was terrible...3rd world terrible. Sometime after the turn of the century (ish), they constructed casinos and within just a few years, housing on the reservation was drastically improved because of the influx of cash from casino ops going to the tribe. Next the tribe built a HUGE school with all the latest stuff for sports and academics. Graduation rates soared because of increased education requirements for good workers in the casinos and within tribal offices. The Muckleshoot tribe was taking care of themselves.
If an indian tribe can do it, why cannot BLM? Where are the college scholarships? Where are the community projects? Where are local private security forces so the kids of Baltimore can just go to school without gang intervention?
In my opinion, BLM seems more like a Homeowners Association paid for by others (homeowners) to benefit others (lawyers who manage the HOA) who don't live in the neighborhood.
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That's so blatantly obvious. They don't want to use their new found money. They want your money and to put you in the poor house, for equality and shit.
This country has a pretty shitty history of killing black people when they try to do community projects
In 1969, charismatic Black Panthers leader Fred Hampton was killed in a hail of gunfire. 50 years later, the fight against police brutality continues
Or banning weapons when black people start carrying arms.
The NRA Supported Gun Control When the Black Panthers Had the Weapons
A point I'd like to make about all the "where's all the BLM people at now?" comments:
Just because you aren't aware of it on your preferred "mainstream media source" doesn't mean that it isn't happen. It just means that the people who run those news organizations don't see anymore value on covering it.
I guarantee that if you live in or near a decently large city, there are still a bunch of minority ran organizations still trying to tackle community issues. They may not be connected to the "Marxist" HQ of BLM, but I they are there and functioning.
Just because you aren't aware of it on your preferred "mainstream media source" doesn't mean that it isn't happen. It just means that the people who run those news organizations don't see anymore value on covering it.
I guarantee that if you live in or near a decently large city, there are still a bunch of minority ran organizations still trying to tackle community issues. They may not be connected to the "Marxist" HQ of BLM, but I they are there and functioning.
If the media doesn't see any value in covering it, is there any value left to the movement? My point was they went so hard in the paint, then one day it was over like the problems were no more. Just like in 2016. And we're not talking about other minority run organizations, we're talking about BLM actual.
And to the NRA comment above, ain't nobody care about the NRA these days. They're clowns and I would say the majority of gun owners would like to see them gone and replaced.
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Race relations in 2020 are nothing like they were coming out of the Jim Crow era.
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Like what? Seriously, there is the chance to influence or inform.
I'm more curious where the money has gone. Same feeling when I see my HOA statement and see 80% of the money goes to running the HOA.
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I'm pretty sure that sentiment right there is one of the exact criticisms being made: The inherent 'value' of any movement or the lives it is highlighting isn't defined by the media (despite the media serving a functional role in trying to tell people what to care about) , and it shouldn't take that degree of civil unrest or number of lives lost for a society and its leaders to suddenly start caring, much less having nation-wide discussions like this one in the first place.
But it did, and it's remains in the public consciousness well after people removed from more vocal areas began asking, "Where are they now?"
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For being the history channel, that article is missing so much context. Colion Noir did a great video on that. The Black Panthers basically just followed every Oakland Patrol car, whilst armed for months on end. Even interfered with police work. What got the Mulford Act passed with the overwhelming majority was the Black Panthers showing up to the State Capital with firearms.
This video has been posted at least once on the board, it came out after that Chappelle set.
For being the history channel, that article is missing so much context. Colion Noir did a great video on that. The Black Panthers basically just followed every Oakland Patrol car, whilst armed for months on end. Even interfered with police work. What got the Mulford Act passed with the overwhelming majority was the Black Panthers showing up to the State Capital with firearms.
This video has been posted at least once on the board, it came out after that Chappelle set.
He was the leader of a criminal/terrorist organization.
I am saying this as someone who lived in Cook County/Chicago from birth to college.
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Ah, no. I was lectured...at work...that my aloof attitude about BLM was because I was a bad person and I didn’t care about human life.
As a result of my retort “If this (BLM movement) is about human life, why isn’t there a movement highlighting that black men are dying at the hands of other black men*?”, the federal employees repeatedly labeled me a “racist and bigot” for citing data.
*per CDC, the leading cause of death for young black males is homicide. Per UCR, the overwhelming number of victims of murder are black men attacked by other black men.
The “discussion” NEVER involves black women abortion rates OR death from drug overdose, poverty, etc but MUST remain focused on cops killing unarmed blacks. Yet what does the data show??? More unarmed whites were killed by cops than blacks. <— Racist, yes, I know...hear it all the time. The “problem“ is IDGAF which names I’m called. Liberals burned that after 4 years of deplorable crap.
The criticism of the BLM movement is its all based on a false narrative (aka...a lie) in order to grab power or money which begets power.
This is what they want
This pisses them off when We don’t comply
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It sounds like they chose an inappropriate time and place (work during work hours) to tell you what they felt about something that didn't directly relate to your project.
If it occurred as read, that sounds highly inappropriate and grounds for an HR complaint, at minimum.
Based on earlier posts you've made (which were pretty fun to read for your retorts), it seems like your work culture doesn't discourage these kinds of interactions. I've always found that to prevent the social inclusivity that is preached in HR trainings, mainly because the only times those interactions doesn't cause unnecessary friction is when the people engaging in those discussions are singing on the same scale.
Yes, their focus is on the practices of people in legally mandated positions of authority against a huge subsection of the populace that earned the right to vote only 55 years ago due to mass civil unrest of the sort you are witnessing this year.
This doesn't absolve any of the statistics you mentioned, just as much as those statistics don't dissolve the problem they've highlighted.
Well, there are many more of them to kill than black people, and it is folly to call that statistic racist. They might have decided that your citing it as a counterpoint to their statement was fueled by racism, but it doesn't sound like you're talking with people who are interested in focusing on those facts.
How about 'shipmate'?
What lie do you feel is causing millions of people to mobilize?
In other words, there is mounting social pressure to perform a certain way in public or risk getting socially targeted or ostracized and having your dinner interrupted?
Well, thank goodness we live in a society where it is inherently patriotic to have the mental resolve to behave as one wishes in spite of mounting social pressure to do otherwise, so long as it is lawful.
People who want to break the law to obstruct your right to do as you lawfully please are more than welcome to justify that reasoning to a judge.
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The best part: this was our Diversity, Equality, and Inclusive folks.
Yes, they want to lecture on the morality that resistance to anti-racism is bad and anyone who espouses such ideology is a bad person. But when I state "I believe that man was made in the image of God and due to my "deeply held religious beliefs that form my morals", (key language from Title VII of the '64 Civil Rights Act) I believe that judging a person because of their skin color is morally wrong." I get crickets.
I believe the inner city inhabitants NEED police protection to keep the wolves at bay. I've read stats where suburban white liberals overwhelming support defunding police but inner city residents overwhelmingly want MORE police. As I mentioned, our DEI wants to lecture employees, both white and black, about race.
That white cops are killing black people at very high rates and the black lives matter. Human life has intrinsic value and if black lives do matter, why isn't there a national movement to kick the gangs in the teeth...like OPERATION LEGEND.
I don't personally care what people do or what social pressure they try to exert. My problem is that the liberals do not respond well to "If you want me to kneel or hold up the power fist, you're going to have to MAKE ME. Yep, you're going to have to throw me off a building, put me into an orange jump suit and do what you gotta do but I will not. So now what?"
I'm not sure about that anymore. I think we have hamlets of patriots but American society overall, I dunno. I'm waiting to see some evidence.
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1. To be clear, Black Men received the right to vote in 1869 with the ratification of the 15th Amendment. Black Women received their right to vote along with white women in 1919 with the 19th Amendment. This isn't to say the path was unencumbered with obstacles in many states which were held hog tied by pretty racist state governments. But those rights were conferred in 1869 and 1919. The Civil Rights Act only made it illegal to further discriminate.
2. The FBI Crime data bears out. Minority Race officers are more likely than white officers to be involved in an officer-involved-shooting. A disproportionate amount of unarmed white people get shot per year by law enforcement, but we don't hear about them, ever. Even though it bleeds it doesn't lead. If every officer involved shooting in this country received the same coverage that the Jacob Blake shooting got (which was clean as fuck) we'd be in a completely different place.
Al Sharpton calls them: "The Latte Liberals".
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