National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

Ooh-Rah said:
Ummm…

Can you say more about the part where it sounds like you’re kinda sorta defending Nazi’s?

Or as Homer would say…

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Definitely not. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the people and government of our country. "Oh, these are the good Nazi's because they can help us get to the moon before the Soviets."

ETA: I've consistently been on team "don't tear down everything that doesn't align with my extremely narrow world view if it is somehow still up".

ETA2: My point which I thought was clear was try them for the crimes they committed.
 
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This is a bad shoot, IMO.

Not only was the Airman innocent, recently returned from a deployment, his wasn't even the correct apartment for the issue the police were called for.

This shoot also brought to you by the same sheriff department with deputy that mag dumped into a squad with suspect handcuffed in the back because an acorn fell on the roof.

Seems to be some serious training issues with that department.
 
DA SWO said:
Bangers here have used the Police open up technique here.
I can't tell if he pointed the gun at the cop. Ifhe didn't point the gun, then asking if the cop was too quick to shoot is legitimate.
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Let's start with this isn't a technique, invaded the wrong home.

More of these happen, the less I'm sympathetic to the "blue line" when they're just out here murdering dudes.

ETA: His POST certification should be immediately revoked and he should be charged with manslaughter.
 
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At work, watched this on news, my partner and I discussed.

Me: bad shoot.
Partner: why would kid answer door with gun, good shoot.
Me: proceeds to explain the previous conversation above.
Partner: fuck him, should have never answered with gun, he could have looked out peep hole.


Um, I love my partner, she's a friend but I think she's wrong.
 
Muppet said:
At work, watched this on news, my partner and I discussed.

Me: bad shoot.
Partner: why would kid answer door with gun, good shoot.
Me: proceeds to explain the previous conversation above.
Partner: fuck him, should have never answered with gun, he could have looked out peep hole.


Um, I love my partner, she's a friend but I think she's wrong.
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I know there's a better term, I'm starting the discussion.

Rashomon effect - Wikipedia
 
Muppet said:
At work, watched this on news, my partner and I discussed.

Me: bad shoot.
Partner: why would kid answer door with gun, good shoot.
Me: proceeds to explain the previous conversation above.
Partner: fuck him, should have never answered with gun, he could have looked out peep hole.


Um, I love my partner, she's a friend but I think she's wrong.
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He supposedly did look out the peephole.

According to reports he was Facetiming with a friend/girlfriend when the deputy knocked on his door. He looked out the peephole and didn't see anything (deputy stepped away from door based on bodycam). The deputy then knocked more aggressively. That's when he grabbed his pistol and went to the door.
 
A few years ago there was a bump in the middle of night, out of the ordinary and very suspicious. Something like 1:00 a.m. I told my wife to call 911, I got my pistol and went downstairs. Deputy came to the door after a few minutes, rang the doorbell. I opened the door a couple inches and told him I was armed, gun was down by my side and finger off the trigger. All he said about it was, "Don't shoot me."

There's absolutely a training aspect in these things, but it's also about having the right people in the right job. Some people can critically think and triage events as they happen. Some people can't.

We never did find out what the noise was, we suspected it was a large animal.
 
Once he ascertained that there were uniformed cops at his door, he made a bad decision to answer the door with a gun in his hand.

Having said that, there are some cops who are predisposed to get buck fever when they see anybody with a gun, especially a black guy.

There’s a thin line between holding a gun in an unthreatening manner and threatening with that gun. I wouldn’t want to bet my life that every cop is cool enough to make the distinction.

Ultimately, nobody wins here but the majority of blame goes to Harry Hair-Trigger with the badge.
 
Muppet said:
At work, watched this on news, my partner and I discussed.

Me: bad shoot.
Partner: why would kid answer door with gun, good shoot.
Me: proceeds to explain the previous conversation above.
Partner: fuck him, should have never answered with gun, he could have looked out peep hole.


Um, I love my partner, she's a friend but I think she's wrong.
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Concrete wall, cop could have shifted left and ordered the kid out.
Starting to look like a bad shoot.
You partner own a firearm?
 

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