National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

My state is similar to @Kraut783 's AO. The portion of the fine from a traffic ticket that is designated for the municipality that wrote it goes into the general fund. And believe me, it's a small fraction of the fine.

One of the things I really liked about policing in PA is that ticket quotas are straight up illegal. You could go your whole career and never write a mover, and there wasn't anything anyone could do about it. You could stop 500 speeders and give them all warnings unless you were on a special detail like 'click it or ticket'.

And yet, a certain cunt brother in law, local cop says this shit still happens on the down low. Why am I not surprised?
 
To be honest, the Jersey, York, Conn, and Mass trash deserve it for the way they intentionally drive. The 95 in Florida is where all the assholes from the north come to collide.
US 301 was so bad, AAA once posted a travel advisory for 3 towns which I think were Lawtey, Starke, and Waldo. The SL was 55 and they would drop you down to 35 in a ridiculously short amount of roadway. The 35 is where they usually nabbed you.

95 isn't horrible minus the FHP. Every now and then I'll see Flager County SO and maybe Jacksonville SO on 95, but the FHP folks out of the Deland barracks are no joke. Wolfpacks at the end of the month (hmm...no quotas there, right?) are somewhat common. I think the Jacksonville barracks handles down through St. John's County with Deland taking that swath of 95 and I-4 up to...Seminole County I think.
Mabton has less than 2000 people. How do they even have a police department? (of two). Trying to understand how they have a city council of 6?

In the case of Waldo and Lawtey above, the number of residents was rather low (818 and 670 respectively in 2023). They used the local PD almost exclusively to generate revenue. Most of the actual law enforcement was handled by the county Sheriff's Office.

As for council sizes and all...local Southern politics.
 
US 301 was so bad, AAA once posted a travel advisory for 3 towns which I think were Lawtey, Starke, and Waldo. The SL was 55 and they would drop you down to 35 in a ridiculously short amount of roadway. The 35 is where they usually nabbed you.
Starke, an incredibly accurate name.

San Antonio to Abilene is a lot of two-lane roads. 65 to 55 to 45 to 35 in half a mile. I braked hard the first time and my wife was like what? 30 seconds later we saw a cop with someone pulled over. Same scenario, 3 towns in a row.
 
That makes me so damn mad. I've been stopped couple times while carrying and both times I told them, and both times they said, well if you don't shoot me with yours I won't shoot you with mine.

There is a part of me that wants to defend the officer removing the gun from the driver. In this case. The dude in the vehicle did not state that he possessed a permit to carry and had a firearm with him.

The cop said “do you have anything crazy with you“, the dude in the vehicle said “yeah, a gun“. He never identified whether or not he was a permit holder.

I’ve been carrying for 20+ years and in every renewal class I go through, the instructor has always beat into our heads, never use the word “gun“ to a cop and always identify yourself with this script…

“Before we go any further, I just wanted to let you know that I have a permit to carry and I am carrying right now, and it is located on my left hip”

Wondering if the scenario would’ve been different if the dude would have identified himself as a permit holder, or if the cop would’ve asked.
 
There is a part of me that wants to defend the officer removing the gun from the driver. In this case. The dude in the vehicle did not state that he possessed a permit to carry and had a firearm with him.

The cop said “do you have anything crazy with you“, the dude in the vehicle said “yeah, a gun“. He never identified whether or not he was a permit holder.

I’ve been carrying for 20+ years and in every renewal class I go through, the instructor has always beat into our heads, never use the word “gun“ to a cop and always identify yourself with this script…

“Before we go any further, I just wanted to let you know that I have a permit to carry and I am carrying right now, and it is located on my left hip”

Wondering if the scenario would’ve been different if the dude would have identified himself as a permit holder, or if the cop would’ve asked.
Last time I was stopped, I kept my hands on the wheel, son had his hands on his headrest.
Cop laughed, said we didn't have to do that.
My next were, I have a pistol in the door pocket, and he didn't flinch.
 
There is a part of me that wants to defend the officer removing the gun from the driver. In this case. The dude in the vehicle did not state that he possessed a permit to carry and had a firearm with him.

The cop said “do you have anything crazy with you“, the dude in the vehicle said “yeah, a gun“. He never identified whether or not he was a permit holder.

I’ve been carrying for 20+ years and in every renewal class I go through, the instructor has always beat into our heads, never use the word “gun“ to a cop and always identify yourself with this script…

“Before we go any further, I just wanted to let you know that I have a permit to carry and I am carrying right now, and it is located on my left hip”

Wondering if the scenario would’ve been different if the dude would have identified himself as a permit holder, or if the cop would’ve asked.

I get that you live in a permit state. But I don't. I am in a constitutional carry state. However, I rarely carry and this has never happened to me.

This event happened in Jacksonville, Florida, Florida is a constitutional carry state. The Officer is at fault for negligence and everyone who was there should be let go and Jacksoville's insurance company better have sent a settlement letter already.
 
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