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Minnesota lawmaker Melissa Hortman killed, State Sen. John Hoffman in grave condition in 'targeted political violence'​

Minnesota lawmaker Melissa Hortman killed, State Sen. John Hoffman in grave condition in 'targeted political violence'

"...A Minnesota state representative and her husband were shot and killed, and a state senator and his wife were shot and wounded in an "act of targeted political violence" at their homes early Saturday, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz said.

A manhunt is now underway for the gunman who was impersonating a police officer, authorities said. The gunman attacked by knocking on the doors and asking the victims to come out, police said..."

Did not see this coming....pretty shitty.
 

Minnesota lawmaker Melissa Hortman killed, State Sen. John Hoffman in grave condition in 'targeted political violence'​

Minnesota lawmaker Melissa Hortman killed, State Sen. John Hoffman in grave condition in 'targeted political violence'

"...A Minnesota state representative and her husband were shot and killed, and a state senator and his wife were shot and wounded in an "act of targeted political violence" at their homes early Saturday, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz said.

A manhunt is now underway for the gunman who was impersonating a police officer, authorities said. The gunman attacked by knocking on the doors and asking the victims to come out, police said..."

Did not see this coming....pretty shitty.
I don’t have serious enough condemnation for this. Disgusting.

Manhunt ongoing.
 
Update… alleged shooter in Minn had ‘No Kings’ material in his car, manifesto, list of politicians.

No motive though some are claiming one similarity of both politicians targeted- they both voted against democrats in recent history.


Tweet referenced in IG post is real-

Man, I'm never one to call anything a false flag, but I will say this feels like the type of shit Alex Jones would have been all over back in the day.

Doesnt matter either way; fuck this dude. Hope they get him alive.
 
These were both Democrat couples targeted by their own.

I talked about how bad it would have been if Trump had been assassinated. Shit would have spiraled out of control as people on the left would of inevitably been targeted too.

Idiots on reddit thought this was some Trump supporter that did this... Its that side thats more into this sick shit.
 
Man, I'm never one to call anything a false flag, but I will say this feels like the type of shit Alex Jones would have been all over back in the day.

Doesnt matter either way; fuck this dude. Hope they get him alive.
I was wondering when someone was going to float it, but then I saw that this dude was on Walz’s board of directors. Occam’s razor.

Assuming what we know at the moment is true, which one of these leads to the least amount of follow on hypothesis to be the most likely scenario?

1. False flag, where an ultra right wing extremist plays the super long game, gets elected to 2 separate boards for two different governors, lies in wait for 9 years, and then picks now to write a manifesto, collect no kings material, and slaughters these poor folks?

2. A hard line liberal/progressive in one of these most progressive areas in the nation is radicalized by a decades-long escalation and dehumanization of the right (Nazi fascist bigot homophobe transphobe xenophobe) and snaps when a democrat casts the deciding vote against illegals in Minnesota and decides to resort to violence?

We will learn more as this comes out. Again, I don’t condone political violence and I am gonna take my 72 hour break before I give anything close to an opinion.

Just sad.
 
I was wondering when someone was going to float it, but then I saw that this dude was on Walz’s board of directors. Occam’s razor.

Assuming what we know at the moment is true, which one of these leads to the least amount of follow on hypothesis to be the most likely scenario?

1. False flag, where an ultra right wing extremist plays the super long game, gets elected to 2 separate boards for two different governors, lies in wait for 9 years, and then picks now to write a manifesto, collect no kings material, and slaughters these poor folks?

2. A hard line liberal/progressive in one of these most progressive areas in the nation is radicalized by a decades-long escalation and dehumanization of the right (Nazi fascist bigot homophobe transphobe xenophobe) and snaps when a democrat casts the deciding vote against illegals in Minnesota and decides to resort to violence?

We will learn more as this comes out. Again, I don’t condone political violence and I am gonna take my 72 hour break before I give anything close to an opinion.

Just sad.
Posted the Alex Jones comment before any suspect info came out.

No idea how hardline the guy is, for either side. Plenty of people work government jobs and don't get invested into political ideologies that much. Looks like he's been running a company since 2021, so he might have left years ago.


Whole thing is fucked. Dude put a bunch of time into this, because I doubt he set up a passable badge and undercover cruiser overnight.

Seems like he was prepped to do this regardless, and the recent vote gave him high profile targets.
 
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Unnamed (officially) suspect-

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Julio is actually really good with the scoop, most people hate him because he's conservative. But he's like 1 in a sea of 10,000.

Officially ID'd in the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/14/us/minnesota-shootings

These were both Democrat couples targeted by their own.

I talked about how bad it would have been if Trump had been assassinated. Shit would have spiraled out of control as people on the left would of inevitably been targeted too.

Idiots on reddit thought this was some Trump supporter that did this... Its that side thats more into this sick shit.

The only people who have mental illnesses and getting violent out there are Democrats. They're doing all the things they said conservatives will do. At times they even cheer this stuff on. I bet there are hundreds (if not thousands) of Democrats who are protesting in the streets today for "no king day" who are saying she earned being murdered. These people are vile. At some point this country needs to wake up to the poison that has been inserted into our society. Maybe Rabbit was right...

ETA: seeing liberals trying to spin this asshole as a Christian Nationalist, sorry, Tim Walz isn't appointing conservatives to anything.
 
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Wired did digging on the suspect's background.

Touches briefly on the alleged manifesto targets:
Law enforcement has said they found a manifesto and hit list in the alleged suspect’s car, which included politicians, abortion providers, and pro-abortion rights advocates. There were also allegedly fliers in his car for the “No Kings” protest against President Donald Trump, which took place in cities across the US on Saturday.

Guy (allegedly) ran a ministry which conducted missions to Gaza during the 2nd Intifada to turn Islamists, did logistics for food companies, and was a director of a security company.

Doesn't matter if he's an Evangelist or a Communist; this is gonna cause bad 2nd and 3rd order effects in the coming weeks.
 
So before I get toooo confused about who is oppressing who...

Where does the California National guard get its Soldiers?
Are they from Trumpistan?
Are they federal shock troops specially trained to oppress the rights of law abiding citizens?

OR

Are these troops drawn from the population of the Democratic Peoples Republic of California?
I'm just asking for a friend because I think it matters.
These are citizens of the United States AND the State of California.
They are also the people that serve in the CANG.

Their leaders are bound by oath to well and faithfully discharge their duties and like ALL US Servicemembers - they are expected to refuse to follow unlawful orders. That seems to create quite the pickle.
Are the California citizens that serve in the CANG trustworthy enough to know NOT to abuse their office - not to violate human rights - not to carry out unlawful orders - not to needlessly cause harm to those that are LITERALLY their fucking neighbors?
Keep in mind - these California citizens serving in the CANG are by all logical reasoning statistically more likely to support folks like Bass, Newsome, Harris, Pelosi, Waters, and even Schiff because it is California citizens (like the ones in the CANG) that vote for these people.
It would seem like everyone wants to be in the CANG until it's time to do CANG shit.

OR

Is it possible that one could say the following event took place in an alternate universe - is it even possible that this could happen in OUR universe...
"Hey Bob - stop using that hammer to break up those cinder blocks in that pallet that miraculously showed up near the protest! Stop throwing those hunks of concrete at innocent people, cars, cops, shop windows, and government officials and go get your OCPs on because we've been called up to do some CANG shit !!!
-We need to go make people stop breaking up the cinder blocks from all of those of those pallets that miraculously showed up near the protest. We also need to tell them to stop throwing those hunks of concrete at innocent people, cars, cops, shop windows, and government officials and ESPECIALLY make sure that you let them know that WE were just on their side, throwing those hunks of concrete at innocent people, cars, cops, shop windows, and government officials.

So -in conclusion:
Either the entire CANG and all of their leaders are fully aware that there is NOTHING "illegal" about what is going on and they are well and faithfully discharging their duty to uphold and defend the Constitution while the entire USA is being gaslit by the usual band of self righteous, virtue signaling, leftist, activist, bullshit spewing democrat wing of the communist party and they are just doing what needs to be done while the usual band of self righteous, virtue signaling, leftist, activist, bullshit spewing democrat wing of the communist party that THEY elected continue to gaslight the entire USA

OR

The CANG is just full of shit because they swore an oath to Newsome and should be refusing to follow the unlawful orders of the Orangeman - because it can't be both.

...again, just asking for a friend.

Brother, that may be your best post ever. You’ve peaked.
 
Anything done in the name of resistance will be absolved.

Disgusting.


ETA- No, I don’t know the motivations of the driver. Yes, I know it was folks protesting the thing I agree with. I don’t condone this action in any way- from whatever ‘side’. Realized some folks can’t have two ideas in their heads at once so I had to clarify with this edit.
Honestly, I don’t have a problem with this.
 
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