National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

Thanks for answering. Just an observation from your bolded; you mentioned the division between left and right as your most prescient problem, and then lobbed an untenable and unprovable ad hom at the leader of the right wing. Do you find that the least bit ironic? Maybe just a little?

How do you think Obama's 8 years affected this "left/right" division? When did that division start, in your estimation?


Woof. What court order did he ignore? Certainly, you aren't talking about the Supreme Court 9-0 ruling that prescribed the facilitation of a return of (alleged) human trafficker, charged illegal immigrant, charged wife beater (with a boot!), and MS-13 gang member Kilmar Abrigo Garcia? Fun update- he's back, awaiting his trial for a new charge. So, technically, the US GOV complied explicitly with that court order, since, you know, he's here and awaiting trial for selling children into sex slavery.

To your bolded- which specific laws were changed? How did that make legal immigration harder?
Yes, I do—but it’s just how I feel.


I think Obama, while he didn’t really do much, was in office during a time when the left became arrogant. They assumed everyone would just think like them. Look at Hillary—she didn’t even visit the Rust Belt during her campaign. So when Trump won by appealing to those who felt left behind, I think it triggered the left into becoming more radical, especially since Trump likes to provoke them. That’s when it really kicked off.


He also ignored the order about the guys who went to South Sudan and the plane with the Venezuelans.


He ended the CBP One app, which allowed people at the border to request an appointment to seek asylum, along with another program for Venezuelans, Cubans, and Haitians. He also reduced the number of employees in the immigration office.
 
If Newsom was a real leader he would have activated the guard immediately to do riot force protection and prepare for riot work while also deploying other state LEO assets. Allowing jackasses to burn and loot businesses just makes you a fool.

I'm cynical enough to believe he didn't activate the Guard so it would force a showdown with Trump.
 
He also reduced the number of employees in the immigration office.

I suppose we did lose 50 brave USCIS employees back in Feb.. Let's hope the decimation of the agency doesn't increase... /s


- Edit.. looks like of those 50, some of them actually gained their job back due to a court order. You have a different number you are tracking?
 
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Yes, I do—but it’s just how I feel.


I think Obama, while he didn’t really do much, was in office during a time when the left became arrogant. They assumed everyone would just think like them. Look at Hillary—she didn’t even visit the Rust Belt during her campaign. So when Trump won by appealing to those who felt left behind, I think it triggered the left into becoming more radical, especially since Trump likes to provoke them. That’s when it really kicked off.


He also ignored the order about the guys who went to South Sudan and the plane with the Venezuelans.


He ended the CBP One app, which allowed people at the border to request an appointment to seek asylum, along with another program for Venezuelans, Cubans, and Haitians. He also reduced the number of employees in the immigration office.
Ok, to sum up- yes your list is hypocritical, no, Trump hasn’t ignored any court orders, there are no new laws that make legal immigration harder (you either misspoke or made it up).
 
Plenty of precedents for POTUS calling in federal troops, a few of which I mentioned.

When we deployed to Miami with the paratroopers, we weren’t there to protect federal property. Oh, no, kiddies. We were issued face shields for our helmets and practiced riot control, in formation, bayonets fixed. We were there specifically for riot suppression.

My only regret is that we didn’t get to bash in any hippie brains because things never got that outta control.

Sad. 😩
 
Seattle. Spokane. San Antonio. Dallas. NY. A host of others.

As more people have time off work (so they can travel to the protests) and weather is nice, this weekend is gonna be sporty.

Everyone stay frosty.

This is where my Helmand-based agricultural co-op pays dividends. Amoral War Produce provided the best organic vegetables (night soil is organic), floral supplies, and "farm equipment" around. My RPD tractors are half-off with free shipping for Shadowspear members.
 
Seeing a bunch of stuff on Threads about people wanting to go to No Kings Day protest in PHX...I tell you guys, the hardcore Left is insane. It's gonna be 108 or something. Like...they get down for the cause and organize like no other. No wonder the conservatives can't govern, because most of us want to be left alone.
 
Seattle. Spokane. San Antonio. Dallas. NY. A host of others.

As more people have time off work (so they can travel to the protests) and weather is nice, this weekend is gonna be sporty.

Everyone stay frosty.
Our Gov has staged Guard troops here in SA, and most of the other target cities. Our Commie mayor encourages this, and our incoming Commie lesbian mayor worked for Biden, so we know who she supports.
 
Our Gov has staged Guard troops here in SA, and most of the other target cities. Our Commie mayor encourages this, and our incoming Commie lesbian mayor worked for Biden, so we know who she supports.
Actually got a call from one of our techs last night in SA- down at the river walk, protestors flying the American flag upside down, counter-protestors also on scene. Wild times.
 
Seeing a bunch of stuff on Threads about people wanting to go to No Kings Day protest in PHX...I tell you guys, the hardcore Left is insane. It's gonna be 108 or something. Like...they get down for the cause and organize like no other. No wonder the conservatives can't govern, because most of us want to be left alone.

I barely would visit my parents in the summer because of how balls hot AZ is; no fucking way I'd be standing on asphalt in PHX to protest.
 
If you're breathlessly defending illegal immigrants, you have a problem. Legal immigrants disagree with you. Like, a lot. 40 point swing to the right for immigrants. 29 point swing (6 points underwater) favorability rating for illegals.

Make sure to check your privilege when people of color and immigrants are talking, k thanks.

 
Seattle. Spokane. San Antonio. Dallas. NY. A host of others.

As more people have time off work (so they can travel to the protests) and weather is nice, this weekend is gonna be sporty.

Everyone stay frosty.

Sometimes I almost regret living in a rural southern town full of Trump supporters. I've got all these guns and all this ammo and a clear field of fire...and no targets.

Sad :(
 
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