My absolute favorite video today. I was told that not listening to BIPOC individuals was racist and bigoted... is that not true, chat?
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Devildoc
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You see, this is what stymies me: the fact they do this and cannot actually see with any intellectual honesty the issues with their argument. They actually think their argument makes some sort of sense.
It's like they could eat a can of alphabet soup and shit a more logical argument.
This is more of an overhead observation about the progressives/liberals (not all dems)- it's the lack of principles. They're willing to abandon anything resembling a principled argument for whatever suits them now. This works in their favor most times, because America rides trends.
Every single issue they champion completely lacks a simple principle at it's base. "We are the party of minorities!" ... well here is a video of two progressive folks mocking a minority because the current thing is more important than the principle you supposedly espouse.
Not that anyone ever asks, but I can take *any* issue and give you the non-secular bumper sticker principle for every single issue I talk about/care about. Abortion. Immigration. Taxation. Voting. Literally any issue. From there we can have as nuanced a conversation as you'd like, and until presented with data that confounds or outright contradicts my principled position, that's where I make my home.
There are plenty of democrats that I disagree with (Ro Khanna notably)- but they have a principled position on topics and rarely stray from it, so I will give them credit where it's due. But those folks are so few and far between it's easy to know their names. Being fair, it's also a huge problem on the right. And center. Reall, all of politics. But I digress.
Devildoc
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I think abandoning principles is part of it, but as you allude, I think a bigger part if their hive mentality groupthink, which has gone from simply illogical to totally irrational. That's even with the right/GOP/whomever having receipts. They play the ultimate game of gaslighting, telling you that Gavin Newsome never asked for the national guard before or that Bush, Clinton, and Obama did not activate parts of the NG, despite evidence being shoved under their wide-set eyes and obligate mouth-breathing face.
People don't want debate, they don't want pesky 'facts' to get in the way, they don't want to have a conversation because, well, OMB (Orange Man Bad) and that's all there is to it.
I see more benefits than you on amnesty, but that's fine; we can actually have the conversation around what should be done, because we both understand that SOMETHING needs to happen.
Flores is a great example of "we wrote the rules but won't follow them in practice".
Releasing the kids so the metrics look good but failing to actually ensure the process is followed and appropriately documented should be fucking criminal, but obviously nobody involved(politicians/feds) cares enough to do anything.
Latte liberals. These are also the people who like to show up and start antagonistic, violent, and/or destructive acts. From there, mob mentality takes over and people get fucking stupid.
Remember the talking head that was for the (MN?) stuff in 2020 but got upset when it came towards their gated community? That's these dweebs.
ThunderHorse
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Not sure who needs to hear this, but I repeat myself. Longstanding Mexican American families, anyone whose roots are pre-1950 ain't about the bullshit that exists in California right now. All we ask is you deport the white illegals [and the Asian ones, and the Arab ones, and the Black ones] while you're at it.
Also, liberal white people who keep pushing their nonsense...
But more importantly:
Also, liberal white people who keep pushing their nonsense...
But more importantly:
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The great astronaut speaks and reminds us that she's stupid.
AI at the beginning; watch the arm of the dude on the right side of the screen when they do the fist raise.
Rest of looks real, but who knows when it's from.
Suprised there isn't more battlefield LA going around yet.
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I should have done my own research before posting, I just deleted it a few minutes ago. Digging deeper, I found that video was a return from a recent deployment video, not a pre-LA deployment video.
Now, reading the DOJs argument here, seems like a slam dunk right? RIGHT?! I have played this game before. I fully expect this suit to be upheld, honestly.
Imagine playing this game with the lawsuit when the Mayor of LA has instituted a curfew due to rioting, looting, and general lawlessness.
DOJ slams Newsom's 'crass political stunt' over Trump's call-up of National Guard amid LA anti-ICE riots
Imagine playing this game with the lawsuit when the Mayor of LA has instituted a curfew due to rioting, looting, and general lawlessness.
DOJ slams Newsom's 'crass political stunt' over Trump's call-up of National Guard amid LA anti-ICE riots
Kraut783
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"...and Native Americans have to walk backwards across the Bering Strait." Priceless
Yea, I'm not sure Newsom wins this one. It can be "#concerning!" to Dems that Trump activated the the Guard when the state didn't want it, but that's not illegal. The CARNG troops aren't arresting people, so no Posse Comitatus violations.
This case will probably wind up splitting hairs, I.E. is riding along with ICE to provide a cordon LEO support or LEO duties?
Another thing might be the Marines, because there's more weirdness with when and how they get deployed stateside.
Yep, all great points. IF the deployed forces do exactly what they're ordered to do- provide security for federal buildings and allow ICE to do their jobs- seems like a big L for alleged lizard person Gavin.
But, as I said before, I have played this game. Fool me once, shame on... me? Fool me twice... you can't fool me again.
Florida173
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Can T10 status provide DSCA? I know T32 can
Yes, it just Becomes more restrictive on what they can do for law and civil order.
The example we've always get briefed is arrest authority.
T32- I might be authorized to serve as an LEO.
T10- Can't serve as an LEO w/o Insurection Act.
That's really broad and not all inclusive, but covers the major difference. I've only supported/been on standby to support natural disasters/crowd control on T32 status, so no idea what all would count as a forbidden LEO duty under T10.
Florida173
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Under T32, I did DSCA for the RNC/hurricane response in Tampa in 2012.. As an intel guy, I obviously couldn't do any intelligence activities.... so I did some hardcore force protection support in the city's Emergency Operations Center against any threats.. which was honestly only black bloc. Worked with all the local and federal agencies.
ThunderHorse
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If Newsom was a real leader he would have activated the guard immediately to do riot force protection and prepare for riot work while also deploying other state LEO assets. Allowing jackasses to burn and loot businesses just makes you a fool.
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