National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

[Cookie_]

You can draw a straight line from that 1986 bill to the problems California had today.

Reagan, with a sweep of a pen, granted citizenship to 3M illegal immigrants and turned Cali from a Republican state to the sanctuary state they are today. This is precisely why I care about immigration so deeply- illegals are counted on the census. The census leads to congressional and senatorial power for these states. Dumping 3M voters in Cali is how we got here today, and why the left is coordinating violent riots all over America a the thought of removing illegal immigrants.

Reagan wasn't a conservative, and the Amnesty Bill is only second to the Flores Agreement in net-negative impacts on immigration in this country. The Flores Agreement enabled the human trafficking of children on a disgusting and grand scale. Here is the OIG report on the February '23 findings.

Bottom line- 291,000 unaccounted for kids.

I see more benefits than you on amnesty, but that's fine; we can actually have the conversation around what should be done, because we both understand that SOMETHING needs to happen.

Flores is a great example of "we wrote the rules but won't follow them in practice".
Releasing the kids so the metrics look good but failing to actually ensure the process is followed and appropriately documented should be fucking criminal, but obviously nobody involved(politicians/feds) cares enough to do anything.

My absolute favorite video today. I was told that not listening to BIPOC individuals was racist and bigoted... is that not true, chat?

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Latte liberals. These are also the people who like to show up and start antagonistic, violent, and/or destructive acts. From there, mob mentality takes over and people get fucking stupid.

Remember the talking head that was for the (MN?) stuff in 2020 but got upset when it came towards their gated community? That's these dweebs.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Not sure who needs to hear this, but I repeat myself. Longstanding Mexican American families, anyone whose roots are pre-1950 ain't about the bullshit that exists in California right now. All we ask is you deport the white illegals [and the Asian ones, and the Arab ones, and the Black ones] while you're at it.

Also, liberal white people who keep pushing their nonsense...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1932590089991041520

But more importantly:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1932812894078710233

 

[AWP]

Not sure who needs to hear this, but I repeat myself. Longstanding Mexican American families, anyone whose roots are pre-1950 ain't about the bullshit that exists in California right now. All we ask is you deport the white illegals [and the Asian ones, and the Arab ones, and the Black ones] while you're at it.

Also, liberal white people who keep pushing their nonsense...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1932590089991041520

But more importantly:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1932812894078710233

The great astronaut speaks and reminds us that she's stupid.

 

[Cookie_]

Oh boy, LOL. Is this video real?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1932828476513391052

AI at the beginning; watch the arm of the dude on the right side of the screen when they do the fist raise.

Rest of looks real, but who knows when it's from.

Suprised there isn't more battlefield LA going around yet.

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[Ooh-Rah]

AI at the beginning; watch the arm of the dude on the right side of the screen when they do the fist raise.

I should have done my own research before posting, I just deleted it a few minutes ago. Digging deeper, I found that video was a return from a recent deployment video, not a pre-LA deployment video.

 

[amlove21]

The great astronaut speaks and reminds us that she's stupid.

AWFLs bro. Biggest threat to democracy.

 

[Box]

The Astronaut don't know shit - Los Angeles - aka; El Pueblo de Senora la Reina de Los Angeles de Porkiuncle was just a nick name for "Mrs Reina's Fat Assed Uncle Pebbles"

Google it - you'll see

 

[amlove21]

Now, reading the DOJs argument here, seems like a slam dunk right? RIGHT?! I have played this game before. I fully expect this suit to be upheld, honestly.

Imagine playing this game with the lawsuit when the Mayor of LA has instituted a curfew due to rioting, looting, and general lawlessness.

DOJ slams Newsom's 'crass political stunt' over Trump's call-up of National Guard amid LA anti-ICE riots

 

[Kraut783]

Not sure who needs to hear this, but I repeat myself. Longstanding Mexican American families, anyone whose roots are pre-1950 ain't about the bullshit that exists in California right now. All we ask is you deport the white illegals [and the Asian ones, and the Arab ones, and the Black ones] while you're at it.

Also, liberal white people who keep pushing their nonsense...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1932590089991041520

But more importantly:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1932812894078710233

"...and Native Americans have to walk backwards across the Bering Strait." Priceless

 

[Cookie_]

Now, reading the DOJs argument here, seems like a slam dunk right? RIGHT?! I have played this game before. I fully expect this suit to be upheld, honestly.

Imagine playing this game with the lawsuit when the Mayor of LA has instituted a curfew due to rioting, looting, and general lawlessness.

DOJ slams Newsom's 'crass political stunt' over Trump's call-up of National Guard amid LA anti-ICE riots

Yea, I'm not sure Newsom wins this one. It can be "#concerning!" to Dems that Trump activated the the Guard when the state didn't want it, but that's not illegal. The CARNG troops aren't arresting people, so no Posse Comitatus violations.

This case will probably wind up splitting hairs, I.E. is riding along with ICE to provide a cordon LEO support or LEO duties?

Another thing might be the Marines, because there's more weirdness with when and how they get deployed stateside.

 

[amlove21]

Yea, I'm not sure Newsom wins this one. It can be "#concerning!" to Dems that Trump activated the the Guard when the state didn't want it, but that's not illegal. The CARNG troops aren't arresting people, so no Posse Comitatus violations.

This case will probably wind up splitting hairs, I.E. is riding along with ICE to provide a cordon LEO support or LEO duties?

Another thing might be the Marines, because there's more weirdness with when and how they get deployed stateside.

Yep, all great points. IF the deployed forces do exactly what they're ordered to do- provide security for federal buildings and allow ICE to do their jobs- seems like a big L for alleged lizard person Gavin.

But, as I said before, I have played this game. Fool me once, shame on... me? Fool me twice... you can't fool me again.

 

[Florida173]

Yea, I'm not sure Newsom wins this one. It can be "#concerning!" to Dems that Trump activated the the Guard when the state didn't want it, but that's not illegal. The CARNG troops aren't arresting people, so no Posse Comitatus violations.

This case will probably wind up splitting hairs, I.E. is riding along with ICE to provide a cordon LEO support or LEO duties?

Another thing might be the Marines, because there's more weirdness with when and how they get deployed stateside.

Can T10 status provide DSCA? I know T32 can

 

[Cookie_]

Can T10 status provide DSCA? I know T32 can

Yes, it just Becomes more restrictive on what they can do for law and civil order.
The example we've always get briefed is arrest authority.

T32- I might be authorized to serve as an LEO.
T10- Can't serve as an LEO w/o Insurection Act.

That's really broad and not all inclusive, but covers the major difference. I've only supported/been on standby to support natural disasters/crowd control on T32 status, so no idea what all would count as a forbidden LEO duty under T10.

 

[Florida173]

Yes, it just Becomes more restrictive on what they can do for law and civil order.
The example we've always get briefed is arrest authority.

T32- I might be authorized to serve as an LEO.
T10- Can't serve as an LEO w/o Insurection Act.

That's really broad and not all inclusive, but covers the major difference. I've only supported/been on standby to support natural disasters/crowd control on T32 status, so no idea what all would count as a forbidden LEO duty under T10.

Under T32, I did DSCA for the RNC/hurricane response in Tampa in 2012.. As an intel guy, I obviously couldn't do any intelligence activities.... so I did some hardcore force protection support in the city's Emergency Operations Center against any threats.. which was honestly only black bloc. Worked with all the local and federal agencies.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Yea, I'm not sure Newsom wins this one. It can be "#concerning!" to Dems that Trump activated the the Guard when the state didn't want it, but that's not illegal. The CARNG troops aren't arresting people, so no Posse Comitatus violations.

This case will probably wind up splitting hairs, I.E. is riding along with ICE to provide a cordon LEO support or LEO duties?

Another thing might be the Marines, because there's more weirdness with when and how they get deployed stateside.

If Newsom was a real leader he would have activated the guard immediately to do riot force protection and prepare for riot work while also deploying other state LEO assets. Allowing jackasses to burn and loot businesses just makes you a fool.

 

[RackMaster]

I haven't laughed so hard...

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[Jaknight]

Thanks for answering. Just an observation from your bolded; you mentioned the division between left and right as your most prescient problem, and then lobbed an untenable and unprovable ad hom at the leader of the right wing. Do you find that the least bit ironic? Maybe just a little?

How do you think Obama's 8 years affected this "left/right" division? When did that division start, in your estimation?


Woof. What court order did he ignore? Certainly, you aren't talking about the Supreme Court 9-0 ruling that prescribed the facilitation of a return of (alleged) human trafficker, charged illegal immigrant, charged wife beater (with a boot!), and MS-13 gang member Kilmar Abrigo Garcia? Fun update- he's back, awaiting his trial for a new charge. So, technically, the US GOV complied explicitly with that court order, since, you know, he's here and awaiting trial for selling children into sex slavery.

To your bolded- which specific laws were changed? How did that make legal immigration harder?

Yes, I do—but it’s just how I feel.


I think Obama, while he didn’t really do much, was in office during a time when the left became arrogant. They assumed everyone would just think like them. Look at Hillary—she didn’t even visit the Rust Belt during her campaign. So when Trump won by appealing to those who felt left behind, I think it triggered the left into becoming more radical, especially since Trump likes to provoke them. That’s when it really kicked off.


He also ignored the order about the guys who went to South Sudan and the plane with the Venezuelans.


He ended the CBP One app, which allowed people at the border to request an appointment to seek asylum, along with another program for Venezuelans, Cubans, and Haitians. He also reduced the number of employees in the immigration office.

 

[AWP]

If Newsom was a real leader he would have activated the guard immediately to do riot force protection and prepare for riot work while also deploying other state LEO assets. Allowing jackasses to burn and loot businesses just makes you a fool.

I'm cynical enough to believe he didn't activate the Guard so it would force a showdown with Trump.

 

[Florida173]

He also reduced the number of employees in the immigration office.

I suppose we did lose 50 brave USCIS employees back in Feb.. Let's hope the decimation of the agency doesn't increase... /s


- Edit.. looks like of those 50, some of them actually gained their job back due to a court order. You have a different number you are tracking?

 

[amlove21]

Yes, I do—but it’s just how I feel.


I think Obama, while he didn’t really do much, was in office during a time when the left became arrogant. They assumed everyone would just think like them. Look at Hillary—she didn’t even visit the Rust Belt during her campaign. So when Trump won by appealing to those who felt left behind, I think it triggered the left into becoming more radical, especially since Trump likes to provoke them. That’s when it really kicked off.


He also ignored the order about the guys who went to South Sudan and the plane with the Venezuelans.


He ended the CBP One app, which allowed people at the border to request an appointment to seek asylum, along with another program for Venezuelans, Cubans, and Haitians. He also reduced the number of employees in the immigration office.

Ok, to sum up- yes your list is hypocritical, no, Trump hasn’t ignored any court orders, there are no new laws that make legal immigration harder (you either misspoke or made it up).