National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

[Gunz]

Damn, this is a pretty good example of placement being more important than quantity.

One in the right spot or nine all over creation. Sounds like he was spraying and they were moving.

 

[amlove21]

Eh, I understand the arguement for not releasing manifestos/whatever information these shitheads were hoping would be published. Fuck giving them publicity to inspire others.

That said; that only works if everybody agrees to do it. If Fox/MSNBC/CNN/whatever Twitter journalist all wanna get a "scoop", then its a losing battle. We've (culturally) financially incitvized people to get their hands on this info, so it's gonna come out in some form or other eventually.



Damn, this is a pretty good example of placement being more important than quantity. Lucky as shit for both of them; hope their recovery processes go well.

.45 vs 9mm fight in 3, 2, 1...

 

[Locksteady]

Being reported on multiple platforms that someone watching their wireless trail-cam saw him and called the authorities.

An unconfirmed snapshot from the trailcam:

 

[amlove21]

uhhhhhhhhhhh.... what now?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1934672918589722922

 

[Cookie_]

uhhhhhhhhhhh.... what now?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1934672918589722922

Dude, it's even worse. He went to two other locations before he got to Hortman's residence, and a cop Even saw him.

At 2:36 a.m., after learning of the shooting at Hoffman's home, New Hope police dispatched an officer to the New Hope lawmaker's house, Thompson said. When the officer arrived, she saw Boelter's car parked down the block and she believed Boelter was an officer dispatched to the scene, Thompson said. The officer pulled up next to Boelter, rolled down her window and tried to speak with him, but he did not respond and stared straight ahead, Thompson said. So the New Hope officer drove to the state senator's home and waited for other law enforcement, and by that time, Boelter had left the scene, Thompson said.

Gonna see some heads roll at local PDs.

 

[Muppet]

Beitrag von Benny Johnson

Truth

 

[BlackSmokeRisinG]

Shot the dog too....what a POS.

 

[ThunderHorse]

This is all insane.

 

[amlove21]

Might have missed this one... No Kings protest in Salt Lake. A volunteer of the paid protest (called "peacekeeper") sees dude manipulating rifle. Shoots at dude. Hits dude once. Kills random person. In the twistiest of twisties- the shooter, who killed Ah Hoo, was not charged but the dude who fired zero shots was charged with murder.

What was that one story... there was some kid that was trying to keep the peace, and ended up killing some pedophiles after he was attacked, and he was immediately charged and his character assassinated and taken to court and called a racist and the whole thing... what was that dudes name?!

Man dies after being shot in chaotic scene at Salt Lake City’s ‘No Kings’ protest • Utah News Dispatch

 

[ThunderHorse]

Might have missed this one... No Kings protest in Salt Lake. (snip)[/URL]

I saw a bunch of videos from that march with the crowd shouting "*86-47". Which I find weird because of the comments on this site from people not understanding that it meant to kill him.

 

[Muppet]

 

[Blizzard]

Might have missed this one... No Kings protest in Salt Lake. A volunteer of the paid protest (called "peacekeeper") sees dude manipulating rifle. Shoots at dude. Hits dude once. Kills random person. In the twistiest of twisties- the shooter, who killed Ah Hoo, was not charged but the dude who fired zero shots was charged with murder.

What was that one story... there was some kid that was trying to keep the peace, and ended up killing some pedophiles after he was attacked, and he was immediately charged and his character assassinated and taken to court and called a racist and the whole thing... what was that dudes name?!

Man dies after being shot in chaotic scene at Salt Lake City’s ‘No Kings’ protest • Utah News Dispatch

Interesting. Here's my take...did said "peacekeeper" have any official policing authority? Was he a licensed police officer or security guard? No? Then charge his ass too. Clown shoes.

 

[Marauder06]

Interesting. Here's my take...did said "peacekeeper" have any official policing authority? Was he a licensed police officer or security guard? No? Then charge his ass too. Clown shoes.

I don't know much about the situation. But criminally, he could have been in the right. If he was legally armed and acted to stop a threat... sometimes bad things happen. He's probably liable civilly but not necessarily criminally.

 

[Blizzard]

I don't know much about the situation. But criminally, he could have been in the right. If he was legally armed and acted to stop a threat... sometimes bad things happen. He's probably liable civilly but not necessarily criminally.

You may be right, but this sounds like a different scenario to me. Maybe it's semantics.

To me, there's a difference between an average citizen being out in public, encountering a situation, and taking action vs. some clown who has taken it upon himself, in some unsanctioned role, to patrol the streets (because organizers don't like police or unwilling to pay for actual event security), which is what sounds like the case here.

Like you, I don't know the details or the laws in Utah, just my initial thoughts based on the high level story I read.

 

[ThunderHorse]

So D's are trying to spin this dude as a right wing extremist, but Minnesota won't release the manifesto...

You may be right, but this sounds like a different scenario to me. Maybe it's semantics.

To me there's a difference between an average citizen being out in public and encountering a situation and taking action vs. some clown who has taken it upon himself, in some unsanctioned role, to patrol the streets (because organizers don't like police or unwilling to pay for actual event security), which is what sounds like the case here.

Like you, I don't know the details or the laws in Utah, just my initial thoughts based on the high level story I read.

Utah is a Constitutional Carry state.

Utah Code Section 53-5a-102.2

So in the words of @amlove21 carry everywhere. Which reminds me, I need to get a smaller piece so I can effectuate that life.

 

[Box]

Nothing to see here...

 

[amlove21]

@Blizzard nope! He WASNT trained certified or authorized and had no authority at all. He was a ‘volunteer peacekeeper’ for the 5150 organization who claimed him as one of theirs in a press release after the event.

@Marauder06 - there was no crime to stop, as open carrying a rifle is legal in Salt Lake as @ThunderHorse pointed out.

The peacekeeper saw a rifle held by an anarchist far left ideologue (from his online profiles many of those labels self professed), got spooked, and then fired indiscriminately into a crowd, killing a random American citizen.

The reasoning I’m seeing for arresting the rifle dude is “he created the situation in which the felony happened”- but it’s on video. He wasn’t pointing a rifle, wasn’t threatening, and wasn’t in commission of a felony… so what are we doing here?

Madness

 

[Marauder06]

@Blizzard nope! He WASNT trained certified or authorized and had no authority at all. He was a ‘volunteer peacekeeper’ for the 5150 organization who claimed him as one of theirs in a press release after the event.

@Marauder06 - there was no crime to stop, as open carrying a rifle is legal in Salt Lake as @ThunderHorse pointed out.

The peacekeeper saw a rifle held by an anarchist far left ideologue (from his online profiles many of those labels self professed), got spooked, and then fired indiscriminately into a crowd, killing a random American citizen.

The reasoning I’m seeing for arresting the rifle dude is “he created the situation in which the felony happened”- but it’s on video. He wasn’t pointing a rifle, wasn’t threatening, and wasn’t in commission of a felony… so what are we doing here?

Madness

This is new information to me. Original reporting was that he was pointing/being aggressive with the rifle. If the bolded is the case, then yes, it was not a justifiable shoot on behalf of the "peacekeeper."

 

[Totentanz]

He wasn’t pointing a rifle, wasn’t threatening

I’m curious about this since I think his behavior will make a world of difference, and accounts of what he was doing are all over the place. Do you have a link to the video?

 

[Muppet]