National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

@Blizzard nope! He WASNT trained certified or authorized and had no authority at all. He was a ‘volunteer peacekeeper’ for the 5150 organization who claimed him as one of theirs in a press release after the event.

@Marauder06 - there was no crime to stop, as open carrying a rifle is legal in Salt Lake as @ThunderHorse pointed out.

The peacekeeper saw a rifle held by an anarchist far left ideologue (from his online profiles many of those labels self professed), got spooked, and then fired indiscriminately into a crowd, killing a random American citizen.

The reasoning I’m seeing for arresting the rifle dude is “he created the situation in which the felony happened”- but it’s on video. He wasn’t pointing a rifle, wasn’t threatening, and wasn’t in commission of a felony… so what are we doing here?

Madness
 
@Blizzard nope! He WASNT trained certified or authorized and had no authority at all. He was a ‘volunteer peacekeeper’ for the 5150 organization who claimed him as one of theirs in a press release after the event.

@Marauder06 - there was no crime to stop, as open carrying a rifle is legal in Salt Lake as @ThunderHorse pointed out.

The peacekeeper saw a rifle held by an anarchist far left ideologue (from his online profiles many of those labels self professed), got spooked, and then fired indiscriminately into a crowd, killing a random American citizen.

The reasoning I’m seeing for arresting the rifle dude is “he created the situation in which the felony happened”- but it’s on video. He wasn’t pointing a rifle, wasn’t threatening, and wasn’t in commission of a felony… so what are we doing here?

Madness
This is new information to me. Original reporting was that he was pointing/being aggressive with the rifle. If the bolded is the case, then yes, it was not a justifiable shoot on behalf of the "peacekeeper."
 
I’m curious about this since I think his behavior will make a world of difference, and accounts of what he was doing are all over the place. Do you have a link to the video?
Absolutely. From the honorable Andy Ngo. You can clearly see in the video- Gamboa (being labeled as "the shooter" who fired zero shots) wasn't pointing at anyone, peacekeeper opens fire *and then the man runs*. This directly refutes the statements from the liberal organizers of the event and for whom the "peacekeeper" was volunteering, 50501 (pronounced "5051", which is lame). It's being alleged that the statements from witnesses are following the same tactic Antifa has used in the past, which is part of their well-planned/organized social media and misinformation playbook.

Antifa and black bloc aligned folks have a long history of carrying long guns at these protests, dating back to 2020.


ETA- Gamboa's backpack containing his rifle was observed by a good samaritan, that's how he was caught. That's on video too- here is the story. ‘This is a rifle!’: Alert bystander spotted the man who had a gun at the Salt Lake City ‘No Kings’ march
 


Hey Mijo,

This is exactly what we did at Homestead AFB with the your 82nd guys when we were on riot standby for Miami. One day we were the riot troops and they were the hippy rioters...and the next day we switched roles.

Being the hippy rioters was more fun. 8-)

But yeah...the object was to try to break the formation, get through, disrupt.
 
Yeah. I had forgotten they even happened.
Just really roll that around in your head.

"So much has happened that I forgot a Green Beret clacked off an EVBIED in downtown Las Vegas and we never even bothered to go deeper than gravitational drives and aliens on a podcast and just moved on."
 
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