Official Ukraine/Georgian Thread

[Gunz]

DNR = Russia. By proxy or actually. What do you expect?

Actual, according to USAREUR Gen Hodges, to the tune of 12,000 Russian troops:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/03/us-ukraine-russia-soldiers-idUSKBN0LZ2FV20150303

 

[pardus]

Actual, according to USAREUR Gen Hodges, to the tune of 12,000 Russian troops:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/03/us-ukraine-russia-soldiers-idUSKBN0LZ2FV20150303

Interesting.

 

[pardus]

 

[pardus]

This one just goes to show the ignorance of some of the Russian people and how brainwashed they are. "It's America's fault"
Also I was shaking my head at the stupidity of these people, "we want to be separate from the Ukraine, but we want them to supply food to us and give us money to buy it".
I did have to laugh at the vodka shelf in the supermarket.

 

[pardus]

I thought the slant of this was a bit fucked up. Equipment gets destroyed and lost. That's war. Has the Ukraine shown their ass a few times? Sure.
The gift of a few Humvees is a good idea IMO, it's gear we can afford to loose, it's a message to Russia, Ukraine and the world, and it's needed and available right now.

I haven't looked into it yet, but I'm curious about what Military equipment the Ukraine sells so much of now.

 

[Brill]

I haven't looked into it yet, but I'm curious about what Military equipment the Ukraine sells so much of now.

(Movers are here so I'm pretty bored.)

They're doing quite well.

http://ukrinmash.com/en/production
and their parent company
http://www.ukrspecexport.com/index/index/lang/eng

Good resource that tracks arms trafficking: http://www.sipri.org/databases

Wait...when did Simon start reporting from the separatists' side? Figured after his detention, their relationship would be over.

 

[pardus]

They're doing quite well.

http://ukrinmash.com/en/production
and their parent company
http://www.ukrspecexport.com/index/index/lang/eng

Wait...when did Simon start reporting from the separatists' side? Figured after his detention, their relationship would be over.

Cool. Good for them.

Did he ever stop reporting on their side? I know VICE has been on both side throughout the conflict, I just don't recall whether Simon specifically stopped after his abduction.

 

[CQB]

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/finland-prepares-reservists-for-crisis-situation-2015-5

Finland’s military has sent letters to the country’s entire 900,000 strong reservist force outlining what each individual should do in the event of a “crisis situation,” Newsweek reports citing local Finnish media.

The potential mobilization of 900,000 people in Finland would be a massive undertaking. With a population of only 5.2 million citizens, conscription would extend to one sixth of the country’s entire population and would include citizens between the ages of 20 and 60.

 

[Marauder06]

Consolidate his hold on the Ukraine and then move to Central Asia. So much the better for him if he can tie an "uprising" to Islamic extremists. Failing that, Belarus and Moldava are not NATO members. There's too much heat on Europe right now, but with the Ukrainian "bulge" between those nations he has some room to fabricate "rebels" crossing the border and aiding Ukr. nationalists.

Agree. He's going to start bumping up against NATO, or countries NATO actually gives a shit about, soon. He'll need to look elsewhere. Terrorism is always a good boogyman.

 

[Viper1]

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/finland-prepares-reservists-for-crisis-situation-2015-5

Finland’s military has sent letters to the country’s entire 900,000 strong reservist force outlining what each individual should do in the event of a “crisis situation,” Newsweek reports citing local Finnish media.

The potential mobilization of 900,000 people in Finland would be a massive undertaking. With a population of only 5.2 million citizens, conscription would extend to one sixth of the country’s entire population and would include citizens between the ages of 20 and 60.

Doesn't Putin know what happened the last time Russia (then known as the Soviet Union) went to war against Finland? :wall::-/

Finland made peace with Stalin but it was about as pyrrhic a victory as one can achieve.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/winter_war_1939.htm
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/514007/Russo-Finnish-War

 

[pardus]

 

[poison]

So Russia bans any talk of dead service members. You're a reporter? Shh. Your son was killed and you talk.? Gulag.

Fucking Russia.

 

[CQB]

Hybrid warfare scenario and Article 5 response.

Heinrich Brauss, NATO’s assistant secretary-general for defence policy, stresses the need for speedy decision-making: “One week”, he says, “could be too long in the event of a hybrid attack. We are now significantly accelerating our procedures.” He refuses to define what might trigger Article 5. “Some ambiguity is necessary,” he says. But an adversary “must know that NATO is capable and willing to act”.

Article of faith

 

[Etype]

I'm sure Putin is terrified.

 

[x SF med]

I'm sure Putin is terrified.

I'm Not so sure... he's defeated the wolf from Peter and the Wolf, the Golden Stag, captured and ridden The Minotaur, carries the world like a rucksack, and defeated Cerebrus and the Horses of Hippolita... and don't forget brokered oil deals for pipelines - all while wearing a toga He's Epic... literally, he's usurped all of the Epics...

 

[Etype]

...brokered oil deals for pipelines...

That's what i call a president!

 

[pardus]

The War Maybe Over.

 

[emccabe]

quick question recently I have not been following whats been going on in ukraine so is the lasting ceasefire a direct result of the russian military changing its focus to syria

 

[Gunz]

quick question recently I have not been following whats been going on in ukraine so is the lasting ceasefire a direct result of the russian military changing its focus to syria

You're gonna go far around here. :wall:

 

[104TN]

He's Epic... literally, he's usurped all of the Epics...

Putin for POTUS?