Looks like a staff attorney for the ACLU has decided it's the conservative Christians' fault after all...
Orlando shooting
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I am not pro-gay or anti-gay.
But I am smart enough to know Obama/Clinton and a host of others will use this to advance their agenda, so I won't get up in arms when Pro 2A Pols use it to advance their agenda.
I read the last link posted and he worked for a security company and a co-worker complained about his voicing extremist views. He then hounded that co-worker until he/she quit.
Let's see if we find out he was raping little boys at the detention facility, G4S security has some 'splaining to do.
Let's not forget, even in a gun-free society his job as an armed guard would have given him access to weapons.
But I am smart enough to know Obama/Clinton and a host of others will use this to advance their agenda, so I won't get up in arms when Pro 2A Pols use it to advance their agenda.
I read the last link posted and he worked for a security company and a co-worker complained about his voicing extremist views. He then hounded that co-worker until he/she quit.
Let's see if we find out he was raping little boys at the detention facility, G4S security has some 'splaining to do.
Let's not forget, even in a gun-free society his job as an armed guard would have given him access to weapons.
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I'm still waiting for a Facebook American Flag profile picture to appear like they did with France. Though I suspect it won't be an American Flag but a LGBT flag instead.
ThunderHorse
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If this is the world we live in, we must fight fire well. We must make our society more free. We must teach the value of life from the very beginning, because that seems to be what we're missing. Whether it's Islamic terrorism or not, there is a segment of this world that seems not to care about it.
But I just enjoy how the Democrats go after the guns when this happens, which causes a lot on the gun owning side of the spectrum to jump up in protection of our rights. I think the NRA and others might be able to end this nonsense by placing the focus on the value of life.
But I just enjoy how the Democrats go after the guns when this happens, which causes a lot on the gun owning side of the spectrum to jump up in protection of our rights. I think the NRA and others might be able to end this nonsense by placing the focus on the value of life.
The FBI need to investigate the father; hopefully a more in-dept investigation then the son. Yes I do know how investigation works, your results will vary depending on analyst, agent, group supervisor, prosecutor and hq policy plus many other variables.
Orlando suspect’s father hosted a TV show and now pretends to be Afghanistan’s president
Orlando suspect’s father hosted a TV show and now pretends to be Afghanistan’s president
- Afghan man who holds strong political views, including support for the Afghan Taliban.
- “Our brothers in Waziristan, our warrior brothers in [the] Taliban movement and national Afghan Taliban are rising up,” he said. “Inshallah the Durand Line issue will be solved soon.”
Terrorist's father youtube channel
Seddique Mateen
the US need to go after ISIS and their supporters. But instead it's the gun's fault. I've heard a lady call the AR-15 a machine gun....wow. Then you got the anti-assault weapon hunters. After the "assault rifles" are banned next up will be sniper rifle.
Orlando suspect’s father hosted a TV show and now pretends to be Afghanistan’s president
Orlando suspect’s father hosted a TV show and now pretends to be Afghanistan’s president
- Afghan man who holds strong political views, including support for the Afghan Taliban.
- “Our brothers in Waziristan, our warrior brothers in [the] Taliban movement and national Afghan Taliban are rising up,” he said. “Inshallah the Durand Line issue will be solved soon.”
Terrorist's father youtube channel
Seddique Mateen
the US need to go after ISIS and their supporters. But instead it's the gun's fault. I've heard a lady call the AR-15 a machine gun....wow. Then you got the anti-assault weapon hunters. After the "assault rifles" are banned next up will be sniper rifle.
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Make no mistake about it, the left wants everything banned. We don't have a gun problem, we have a crazy people problem....and by that I mean the left. If we enforced the laws on the books and applied a little common sense, these shooting wouldn't be happening.
Brill
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My memory was that the American people were the one's who wanted answers because the idea that a video incited attacks with SA and IDF didn't pass the smell test.
Americans are fed up with the lies coming from DC and appear to be drawn to someone who seems honest (or at least shares similar viewpoints).
I read your post as Americans want Obama to be a leader.
Low viz armed guards inside! We have Air Marshals on acft why not have non-Fed guards in "gun free zones"?
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macNcheese
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What solution is there to lone wolf attacks? Full access to our personal life is basically it. Unless we're all going to allow that... It's going to keep happening. I'll gladly sacrifice my privacy if it saves lives.
Maybe not shootings...but Islamic terrorists don't need guns to kill a lot of people.
We are so fucking afraid of offending our enemies. This guy was on the radar. And still he was able to carry this out.
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Really?
Well you go right ahead and do that - and think about what you are saying...seriously .
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macNcheese
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Why not? I don't have anything to hide?
No, we won't do shit in an effort to prove we are not "anti-muslim".
Maybe the Gay Community will start to wake up.
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Who knew the Gay Community had their own gun group?
Pink Pistols Statement on Orlando Gay Club Massacre - The Truth About Guns
That's the rub.
The only problem with it is that Ben didn't foresee mass-casualty terrorism. I'm not saying we should curtail any of our BOR freedoms--not in the least--only that sometimes 18th Century laws have to be amended or updated to help counter 21st Century threats. And we have done it from time-to-time.
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The only things that require an update in this country are citizenships, education standards, and moral courage. Releasing your data for the government to view is equally uninteresting as it is unhelpful in curbing terrorism 99.9% of the time. As stated, the guy was on the radar - odds are the Gov saw a lot more than they care to release and still
We (our gov/country/society) need to stop worrying about offending everyone and/or using it as a scapegoat to inaction. In all three aspects, there is a complete lack of accountability. Also you playing the little submissive citizen role who wants to give up their rights to "flush ISIS" is just adorable.
We (our gov/country/society) need to stop worrying about offending everyone and/or using it as a scapegoat to inaction. In all three aspects, there is a complete lack of accountability. Also you playing the little submissive citizen role who wants to give up their rights to "flush ISIS" is just adorable.
DocIllinois
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Exactly my thought.
Ben's administration wasn't fighting a group of people with a holy book that sets the stage for aggressive religious conflict on nearly every page.
Our enemy will use our current laws and humanity against us, sooner rather than later. Its what I'd do if I were fighting a powerhouse like the U.S.
A good friend of mine is a lesbian and active in the community. She and her wife also regularly go to the gun range and post the results on Facebook where many of their gay and lesbian friends congratulate them on shooting, ask about guns, etc. I honestly think if Republicans would stop their nonsense with the gay and lesbian community they would find themselves with an influx of voters.
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If we're going to say "More surveillance" then we might as well take the 4th Amendment and throw it away. After that we can do the same with the other Amendments. Screw that pesky Constitution because freedom and 'Merica.
We'd be better served by upholding what Bush said years ago. "With us or against" us and start addressing our frenemies like Qatar, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia. The West needs to wake up. I'm tired of the killing but I'm equally, if not more, tired of the shock and outrage. This isn't a new problem, our tears and hand-wringing aren't enough, and while we can't kill our way out of this problem we need to go old school Game of Thrones on these people. The carrot is mighty tasty after you've taken the stick.
I missed the interview and it is probably for the best. If anyone needs to weigh in on the subject, it is Hamid Karzai.
Orlando shootings: Afghan background not an issue - Karzai - BBC News
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