Orlando shooting

[Marine0311]

A friend of mine's niece was at the club. Not doing so well. She got hit a few times

Ouch. My thought and prayers please.

 

[Red Flag 1]

I think the look back in history, and the take over of the American Native Indians lands is an idea to think about. It is happening again, just using differest tactics. When we took over the Eastcoast, and the inland areas later on, Europeans took over by law of mass action. The larger mass displaces the smaller mass. We just moved from the Atlantic to the Pacific slowly with large numbers of people. Our invasion was assured by a well trained military with the goal of containing the "enemy" in smaller plots of land.

We are being invaded again. Pretty much the same reasoning, which a pure hatred of our religious practices, and the freedom our laws assure us. The people who are attacking us are doing so for similar reasons we did over the Native Americans, who we described as savages. Make no mistake, our Nation is under attack, and has been since 9/11. They are not going away, and are growing their numbers every day. The longer our citizens vote in people who do not see the threat, the greater of an advantage we give to those killing people in our country. The more that is made of taking our firearms, the greater the advantage we give to the terrorists who are here, meaning to kill us, and take over our Nation.

It is time to look at the "random" acts of terrorism for what it is, an invasion by people who hate us and want us dead. The number of deaths per incident are climbing. The number of attacks will increase, and as things stand now, our leadership is not responding in kind. We are loosing people at ever increasing numbers. What doe s that tell people. The answer is what the media decides it is, and "Whatever is Politically Correct".

My $.02. Back to my wee cave in The Valley.

 

[Marauder06]

Is it time to "embrace violence" in the effort against ISIS?

For those who embrace violence, the ability to see those that embrace evil comes through as clear as a beautiful desert sky after that rare torrential downpour…

…because for those who embrace violence, the ones who chose to embrace evil share the same blood.

 

[DA SWO]

A friend of mine's niece was at the club. Not doing so well. She got hit a few times

Very sorry to hear that.

 

[Red Flag 1]

Is it time to "embrace violence" in the effort against ISIS?

I wish I could Mega agree. The problem is the ability of ISIS to hide among the sheeple until they have everything in place. It seems our CONUS intel needs some help. There were concerns about the Orlando shooter that were very specific, and made known in advance. I don't know what the answer is.

 

[DA SWO]

I wish I could Mega agree. The problem is the ability of ISIS to hide among the sheeple until they have everything in place. It seems our CONUS intel needs some help. There were concerns about the Orlando shooter that were very specific, and made known in advance. I don't know what the answer is.

Maybe not give a pass because someone is Muslim and you are afraid they will scream discrimination.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

 

[RackMaster]

A friend of mine's niece was at the club. Not doing so well. She got hit a few times

Sorry to hear, I hope she recovers.

 

[Kheenbish]

Didn't know if this warranted it's own thread, so I figured I'd throw it in here. Possible ISIS linked attack in Paris, policeman and wife killed by neighbor who allegedly pledged allegiance to ISIS. These lone wolf attacks are becoming all to frequent.

Paris policeman and wife killed in possible Isis-linked terror attack

Paris policeman and wife killed in possible Isis-linked terror attack

 

[Florida173]

Careful. I wouldn't yet classify it as a lone wolf attack.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

Every time I read "lone wolf" I'm always thinking:

 

[CDG]

Damn. A Benjamin Franklin quote. That's pretty good. But completely flushing out ISIS in the US isn't temporary safety. Also this might be he wrong topic to quote someone who didn't know their assistant was a spy

Explain how giving up personal freedoms will completely flush ISIS out in the US and then keep them from coming back. Your last sentence is completely irrelevant to the conversation. Your POV is short-sighted, ignorant, and dangerous.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

We obviously need the tools and resources to track and investigate suspected terrorists. But we also need to convict and sentence them and their accomplices to the full extent of the law. Hints my treason post. Take this Orlando shooters wife, father and everyone else who knew what he was doing, and toss their ass in prison, fine them into poverty, and execute where ever possible. Send the message that if you assist, harbor, do not report, and you're a citizen, you will be treated worse then our enemies. Make it so unbearably crushing that, nobody would risk protecting or assisting these assholes. Seize every possession, revoked citizenship, zero benefits, and never able to work as anything more than a street sweeper or garbage man. No drivers license again, ever, no ability to own property, no education, no nothing. You are not a second class citizen or even a migrant, you are now a traitor...period.

 

[Muppet]

A friend of mine's niece was at the club. Not doing so well. She got hit a few times

Prayers sent.

M.

 

[Red Flag 1]

A friend of mine's niece was at the club. Not doing so well. She got hit a few times

I am sorry to hear of injuries sustained by your friend, may she heal quickly, and return to the life she knew before this horrid event. She will need much support, as the scars inside. will be long lasting. My thoughts and prayers are with your friend.

 

[Gunz]

Maybe not give a pass because someone is Muslim and you are afraid they will scream discrimination.

Proactive, like Mossad. Identify, confirm, study, surveil, OPLAN, execute. Principle disappears, fear and dread infect the survivors.

 

[Brill]

An interesting reaction to the shooting: crash CIA's front gate?

Mom: Man Who Crashed Into CIA HQ Gate 'Troubled' by Orlando

 

[Rapid]

French jihadist police killer 'obeyed Islamic State order' - BBC News

"The man who killed a French police couple at their home near Paris was acting on an order from so-called Islamic State (IS) to "kill infidels", officials say."

Why is it, again, that the French (and their President) are quite quick to attribute these types of attacks to Islamic terrorism... while most American media outlets (and their President) seem to be working in overdrive to find other excuses for these types of attacks? Mental health, homophobia (there are stories now saying he was a repressed homosexual who acted out his anger), it's a 'gun control issue', etc.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Regardless of what you think of Obama, it is difficult to say he has been soft on terrorism. Especially if you account for drone-strikes and SOF use.

That said, when he speaks he does everything he can to avoid using trigger phrases such as "radical Islam", why? Is it really just because he does not want to acknowledge there are cells here and is trying to keep a WW2 Japanese internment camp from happening , or is it something more politically international?

 

[TLDR20]

May

Regardless of what you think of Obama, it is difficult to say he has been soft on terrorism. Especially if you account for drone-strikes and SOF use.

That said, when he speaks he does everything he can to avoid using trigger phrases such as "radical Islam", why? Is it really just because he does not want to acknowledge there are cells here and is trying to keep a WW2 Japanese internment camp from happening , or is it something more politically international?

Maybe it is a Voldemort thing...