Perhaps this is all recency bias for myself, as he built a platform that was relatively focused and did well discussing things that are 20+ years old. I don't like the attempt at some perceived high ground as in my view he's chosen to chase clicks now. Platforming Newsom, Biden, and Carlson for what exactly?
Ryan isn't Rogan. Newsom could go on Rogan and I wouldn't think twice. Newsom did it as part of his self rebrand to appeal to MEN as he gears up for his presidential run, nothing more. And he's a scumbag, horrible governor that has helped destroy my home state and made it quite unliveable. So why? Dunno. Just kinda over the whole podcast industrial complex at this point.
And if anyone thinks I'm in a Fox News talk silo, I'm not, although my father in law is. News? Generally the mainline sources, I hate the NYT but I'll read it. Same with the WaPo.