Shopping for Optics...
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hey Free... what's happened?....
Hey Free.... if you want a few copies of Shooting Times, let me know, I can send them your way....
If that's the case ...since you brought it up, cook me calamari, wench, or is that witch? Whatever, Calamari, STAT... with a nice marinara for dipping and a side of nice fusili.... and a chianti.....
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No kidding there are so many choices and lots of really good choices too... so which one? Then factor in the range of prices. I have never figured it out. At least in one respect it is better than skydiving. With optics, you can walk away from a bad jump, maybe a little more poorer, by OK.
Use irons and your problem is solved....lol
ACOG is great for "combat" but I would not use one in 3 gun, or some of the tactical carbine matches I shoot.
I would make a list of what you want:
Price range
Distance of use (0-50/0-100/0-300/0-500 yards)
Ammo you plan to use
Weapon platform
Faster or more accurate
I use a Mil-Spec AR 15 with an EoTech 511 with 50yd zero for 3 gun......POA/POI is pretty flat out 250yd and the center dot in 1MOA and making A's/0's has not been a problem with good ammo.
ACOG is great for "combat" but I would not use one in 3 gun, or some of the tactical carbine matches I shoot.
I would make a list of what you want:
Price range
Distance of use (0-50/0-100/0-300/0-500 yards)
Ammo you plan to use
Weapon platform
Faster or more accurate
I use a Mil-Spec AR 15 with an EoTech 511 with 50yd zero for 3 gun......POA/POI is pretty flat out 250yd and the center dot in 1MOA and making A's/0's has not been a problem with good ammo.
what you need?.... EOTech? AIMPoint? Thermal? NV? ACOG? Telescope? Microscope? Glasses?... tell me..
I narrowed down to a type based on the division I plan to shoot in, so a 1-4 ish power scope is great.
Do you have any freaking idea how many 1-4ish power scopes are out there? Reticle choices, price, who makes good glass, who doesn't, who has good customer service, who doesn't, Mil-dot or MOA.....
And then once you finally decide on the glass you need a mount for it which is a whole other series of choices.
The best part is that it isn't uncommon to have an optic which costs more than the rifle it is mounted on.
I've finally figured it all out for my own uses, but damn....that's only taken a few months of research and I still have to work on Mil-dot calculations for hold overs and range estimation.
Do you have any freaking idea how many 1-4ish power scopes are out there? Reticle choices, price, who makes good glass, who doesn't, who has good customer service, who doesn't, Mil-dot or MOA.....
And then once you finally decide on the glass you need a mount for it which is a whole other series of choices.
The best part is that it isn't uncommon to have an optic which costs more than the rifle it is mounted on.
I've finally figured it all out for my own uses, but damn....that's only taken a few months of research and I still have to work on Mil-dot calculations for hold overs and range estimation.
Ranger Psych has a 1-4x IIRC, maybe he will chime in on its performance.
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Just throwing one onto your pile:
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=338333
Shot one on a friend's AR a few weeks back and liked it so much that I bought one myself. The BDC reticle worked well out to 400m, and for 1/4 the price of the ACOG I originally had in mind, it was pretty hard to beat.
Don't know much about 3-gun matches, your budget, quality expectations (I'm by no means a glass connoisseur), but figured it was worth a mention.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=338333
Shot one on a friend's AR a few weeks back and liked it so much that I bought one myself. The BDC reticle worked well out to 400m, and for 1/4 the price of the ACOG I originally had in mind, it was pretty hard to beat.
Don't know much about 3-gun matches, your budget, quality expectations (I'm by no means a glass connoisseur), but figured it was worth a mention.
Are you going to shoot open class?
Negative. I don't have a 1-4... I have a 2.5-10x56 Trijicon Accupoint... which does come in a mil dot reticle, tritium and fiber optic powered, 2.5 is cake for CQM style shit. I personally like it considering my AR's a pseudo-SPR style build anyway. I'll be replacing the Leupold on the 7 mag with the high magnification variant they make, and when finances allow the upgrading to 7.62 for primary rifles for the family, they'll be topped with this same scope.
Tactical. I believe Limited allows a red dot, tactical allows a scope.
I looked at their scopes but didn't care for the reticle on their 1-4 offering.
I stand corrected, thanks RP.
Well Free dare I say it S&B short dot maybe? I know there bigger scopes are sexual, never used the 1-4 myself though.
Well Free dare I say it S&B short dot maybe? I know there bigger scopes are sexual, never used the 1-4 myself though.
What organzation?
What's the point in being an amoral war profiteer if you can't spend the big bucks on flash toys
How much did your rifle cost?
