Star Wars - ** SPOILERS ** discussion thread

** As the thread title says...spoilers **

I want to punch Rian Johnson for absolutely ruining the Star Wars universe. Did he truly watch any of the films? Even JJ Abrams showed us that he loved the franchise. This guy? Fuck him. Even midi-chlorians were forgivable, but not this film.

1) gravity bombs. In space. With level flight bombers. Think about that. How fucking stupid was that

2). Where was Finn going to take that escape pod? That had no hyperspace capability. In a system that, at the time, they didn't know had a planet. It would have been castaway in space. "Day 4, finished eating Po's jacket. It was delicious. Must now drink my own urine."

3). The whole casino storyline didn't have to happen. It sucked. It was like Disney combined their animated classic "spirit" with pod racing and somehow came up with something worse than that sounds. What? Sure we will just leave our ship here. What? Sure we will trust this random dude we met IN PRISON to save the Galaxy...which didn't have to happen because.....

4). Why not fucking tell Po about the plan with the shuttles? Hey Po, we are going to cloak the shuttles and head to this secret rebel base. Oh, ok, cool. Then I don't have to rely on this dumbass bullshit plan of mine. That also means we don't have to have the whole mutiny. It also means that the prisoner my dumbass friends trusted wouldn't be on the first order ship to ruin the plan either.

5). The Kylo/Rey storyline was like someone sat down and said "hey, we need a huge light saber battle, but it can't be the Rey versus Kylo because that was done in 7....what if we get them to fight together against samurai! Thst would be awesome, make it happen. Well, why are they fighting together, is Kylo good? No he has to be the bad guy in 9? Ok, well is Rey bad? She is the good guy in 9. Well, shit, we will make it work!"

6). Speaking of Snoke, he is this super badass with the force, but he doesn't know the saber is being turned toward him? Give me a fucking break. For two years people have speculated about Snoke, and who was he? A plot device to get the aforementioned light saber battle on screen. 2 years of wondering who he was for....nothing...like Rey's parents....nothing...plot device

7). I was done with the whole Luke being a pussy storyline after the first 15 minutes. I get it. It sucked. Pull your shit together. They made Luke, the most whiny character in the universe, MORE whiny...like, millennial whiny

8). There is an animal on Every. Fucking. Planet. Look how cute. Look how sad. Look how pretty. The animals actually save more people than the actual people do. Disney basically interjected Bambi, Spirit and Cinderella into a Star Wars movie

9). Of course none of this shit would have been necessary at all. As it turns out, you can shoot a ship at light speed through other ships and basically destroy a fleet. Well that's good to fucking know. Any fucking reason you didn't do that with the medical frigate before it ran out of gas in the very fucking beginning?

10). Only the lead ship has a tracker. Why. Why does does only the lead ship have a tracker. That's like if the second Death Star had the same exhaust port as the first level of dumb

The part I swore I would fucking lose my shit over, if they killed Luke Skywalker, was the only part of the movie they actually got right (his final fight with Kylo and subsequent "death". And Chewbacca.
 
Ooh-Rah said:
** As the thread title says...spoilers **

I want to punch Rian Johnson for absolutely ruining the Star Wars universe. Did he truly watch any of the films? Even JJ Abrams showed us that he loved the franchise. This guy? Fuck him. Even midi-chlorians were forgivable, but not this film.

1) gravity bombs. In space. With level flight bombers. Think about that. How fucking stupid was that

2). Where was Finn going to take that escape pod? That had no hyperspace capability. In a system that, at the time, they didn't know had a planet. It would have been castaway in space. "Day 4, finished eating Po's jacket. It was delicious. Must now drink my own urine."

3). The whole casino storyline didn't have to happen. It sucked. It was like Disney combined their animated classic "spirit" with pod racing and somehow came up with something worse than that sounds. What? Sure we will just leave our ship here. What? Sure we will trust this random dude we met IN PRISON to save the Galaxy...which didn't have to happen because.....

4). Why not fucking tell Po about the plan with the shuttles? Hey Po, we are going to cloak the shuttles and head to this secret rebel base. Oh, ok, cool. Then I don't have to rely on this dumbass bullshit plan of mine. That also means we don't have to have the whole mutiny. It also means that the prisoner my dumbass friends trusted wouldn't be on the first order ship to ruin the plan either.

5). The Kylo/Rey storyline was like someone sat down and said "hey, we need a huge light saber battle, but it can't be the Rey versus Kylo because that was done in 7....what if we get them to fight together against samurai! Thst would be awesome, make it happen. Well, why are they fighting together, is Kylo good? No he has to be the bad guy in 9? Ok, well is Rey bad? She is the good guy in 9. Well, shit, we will make it work!"

6). Speaking of Snoke, he is this super badass with the force, but he doesn't know the saber is being turned toward him? Give me a fucking break. For two years people have speculated about Snoke, and who was he? A plot device to get the aforementioned light saber battle on screen. 2 years of wondering who he was for....nothing...like Rey's parents....nothing...plot device

7). I was done with the whole Luke being a pussy storyline after the first 15 minutes. I get it. It sucked. Pull your shit together. They made Luke, the most whiny character in the universe, MORE whiny...like, millennial whiny

8). There is an animal on Every. Fucking. Planet. Look how cute. Look how sad. Look how pretty. The animals actually save more people than the actual people do. Disney basically interjected Bambi, Spirit and Cinderella into a Star Wars movie

9). Of course none of this shit would have been necessary at all. As it turns out, you can shoot a ship at light speed through other ships and basically destroy a fleet. Well that's good to fucking know. Any fucking reason you didn't do that with the medical frigate before it ran out of gas in the very fucking beginning?

10). Only the lead ship has a tracker. Why. Why does does only the lead ship have a tracker. That's like if the second Death Star had the same exhaust port as the first level of dumb

The part I swore I would fucking lose my shit over, if they killed Luke Skywalker, was the only part of the movie they actually got right (his final fight with Kylo and subsequent "death". And Chewbacca.
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Well....fuck
 
Everyone I know that's seen it says it sucks, critics are a bunch of shills these days and are unwilling to do much else. Or so it seems. I'll still go watch it, but JJ is a horrible producer for this. And yeah, I know everyone said Episode 1 sucked...but if that sucked, 7 was an aborted goat fetus.

As far a point 9 @Ooh-Rah there's some pretty badass weapons in the original Canon.
 
Ooh-Rah said:
It does not go unnoticed by me, that while the bought-and-paid for 'critics' rated it 93% fresh...the fan reaction was not so kind at only 56%.

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Check out justice league...

People keep suggesting to me that IMDB is being somewhat favorable, but I'd suggest people have been voting it up there before the movie was even released.

Rotten tomatoes is probably more reflective now of true fans. I'm sure it will continue to move up a bit.
 
Would someone who enjoyed both the prequels (minus Jar Jar) as well as the originals, but thought The Force Awakens was average enjoy this?

I've heard a resounding hate for this but the people who I have talked too that enjoyed it say it's the best out of all the movies.
 
SaintKP said:
Would someone who enjoyed both the prequels (minus Jar Jar) as well as the originals, but thought The Force Awakens was average enjoy this?

I've heard a resounding hate for this but the people who I have talked too that enjoyed it say it's the best out of all the movies.
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I enjoyed the prequels and thought TFA was flaming garbage, however, even after reading all of the comments all over my feed...I'm going to throw my money away this weekend at it.
 
You still have to watch it. It's better to have movies than not. I just think that switching directors is poor form. Imagine if you really enjoyed this one and things were introduced that you appreciated, but the next film in two years just takes those things and says "fuck you" by saying they didn't matter. It insults the fans. 8 films and a shit load of cartoons that are canon leading into this film, but let's add some major new stuff because fans don't matter.
I can get by the Disney marketing machine with regards to porgs and stuff.
 
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