It is easier to fire a CJCS than SECDEF than a sitting POTUS...
People focusing on Biden right now are missing the real problem IMO. Politics is like Jenga. Why pull the blocks at the top when you should pull the blocks on the lower end?
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It is easier to fire a CJCS than SECDEF than a sitting POTUS...
People focusing on Biden right now are missing the real problem IMO. Politics is like Jenga. Why pull the blocks at the top when you should pull the blocks on the lower end?
Dammit man, I wish I could like this even more than I already do. I just rewatched The Rock and I love this damn scene. Kudos.
Edit to add; I have *always* wanted to get into such a righteous conversation with a general that someone screams, "STAND DOWN SERGEANT!!!!" at me. It is my greatest lament that I have not had that experience.
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Boy I’m going to step-in-it-here but…As hot headed and reactionary as he was, it would be very difficult to convince me that the Pentagon did not overrule Trump on at least one (but likely many) cases the 4 years he was in office; especially over N. Korea stuff.
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I don't think you're stepping in it. You're probably right.
YOU'RE THE ONLY MOD STEP INTO IT WITH WHOM?!?!
I agree with you on this, in part. I am sure there were times that the CJCS advised against something or slow-rolled a decision, as far as Austin goes (the actual button pusher on these decisions isn't the Staff but the ole Lloyd himself).
Except they aren't supposed to overrule the WH. Good, bad, or other where do you draw the line between doing your job and "all enemies both foreign and domestic?"
I submit that Milley doesn't know that line and has become a power unto himself.
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I'm sorry General, but you're going to what? to the SITTING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES? You're the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and you're going fucking FIGHT HIM? But yeah, President Trump is the one who is the "threat to democracy." What the actual FUCK..
Wow, I was going to spend day binging shows on Netflix or maybe lose some money in a casino, or both. But following this thread is getting addictively fun.
Another thought, and I'm not a fan of Trump, but balloons penetrated US airspace 2, 3, 4 , 90, 1 billion times while Trump was in office, but Alexander Vindman didn't say a word? That was so compartmentalized he didn't know anything?
Naw, fam, I'm good. Let's move on to another talking point.
Naw, fam, I'm good. Let's move on to another talking point.
I think the balloon had descended in altitude to 60k feet, which is more within the operational range than the 80k+ that pilot was originally talking about.
Probably a moot point though, because something extra funky might be going on based off of the missile used, as @AWP brought up.
I'll throw my hat into the "WTF are the CJCS and SecDef doing?" ring as well.
I'm willing to believe that Biden means overruled as "talked out of", but that's still crazy to me. That's not their job once he gives the order, their job is to follow through on what was directed.
The only way I'd believe that is if the argument is "the general public never caught wind of those balloons, so it stayed under wraps because it wasn't national news."
Still, somebody in Trump's orbit would have thrown that detail into a book by now.
This relevant video might be of interest as it echos a few sentiments or opinions expressed in this thread.
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To this point, this balloon was visible to the public at some level throughout this event.
The good people of Montana (the Last Best Place), one of those being a guy named Chase Doak, noticed the balloon, recorded it, and reported it to the media and others on Feb 1. This forced the Pentagon and others to make a statement.
If this type of thing happened regularly or even a couple times previously, it seems highly likely that some civilian would've noticed it and reported it as well.
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There are also quite a few people watching the skies to be the first do get a good picture of ET sightseeing the USA and the world. So lots of video and pictures of I think I just had my first ET contact showing up on YouTube, twitter, Instagram, etc. I agree it's unlikely something strange or unique in the sky not getting posted someplace.
Here's an interesting piece of cross-threading related to both this thread, and the one about big-tech censorship.
So I posted the below meme to my Facebook page. A friend of mine made a comment about it, and a different friend of mine later noted that the comment was hidden. By Facebook, not by me:
Wow, a friend of mine posted something in my feed that was so offensive that Facebook needed to censor it for me? Something that I didn't notice and handle myself? That's interesting. Especially because this particular friend isn't really given to saying the kinds of things that a reasonable person would think are unfit for Facebook.
Want to see what he said?
soooo.... how is this offensive exactly, to the point where Facebook took it upon themselves to censor it for me?
Oh yeah, it makes fun of the "president" of China. And we can't have that. Better stick to bashing America, peasants.
So I posted the below meme to my Facebook page. A friend of mine made a comment about it, and a different friend of mine later noted that the comment was hidden. By Facebook, not by me:
Wow, a friend of mine posted something in my feed that was so offensive that Facebook needed to censor it for me? Something that I didn't notice and handle myself? That's interesting. Especially because this particular friend isn't really given to saying the kinds of things that a reasonable person would think are unfit for Facebook.
Want to see what he said?
soooo.... how is this offensive exactly, to the point where Facebook took it upon themselves to censor it for me?
Oh yeah, it makes fun of the "president" of China. And we can't have that. Better stick to bashing America, peasants.
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