The China Thread (Threat)

[Box]

I dont disagree with you - its that same small subset of dissenters that obstruct everyone else from trying to "get at" the problem.

I also think that the same subset of americans that have been ideologically turned towards this utopian fallacy of 'democratic socialism' wouldn't hesitate to treat dissenters in the USA the exact same way that China currently treat THEIR dissenters.

Dissent is only good when it is "my team" raging against the machine - all others must be punished.
Its a 'Brave New World' that we are living in

 

[R.Caerbannog]

If Taiwan and the adjacent countries are gonna want support against China, they're gonna have to step up their efforts against the PRC's massive PR machine. The way things are going, it seems like the Chinese mainland is insanely good at projecting soft force at it's enemies.

 

[Brill]

Nothing unifies the American people more than being attacked.

We could have another FKIA of +3k and the opposing side (left or right) would, I believe, cheer. Yes, I think Americans would be happy because other Americans died because they’re not viewed as countrymen but enemies. I don’t think there is any situation We could encounter that would unite Americans like We were just 8 years ago. I cannot imagine the people of CA, OR, NY, or MD supporting all Americans regardless of ideology. Maybe it’s possible and I hope I’m wrong.

Toward the end of 2018, Gallup updated a relatively long trend asking Americans whether they thought the upcoming year (2019) would be "a year when America will increase its power in the world, or a year when American power will decline." Americans were divided, with 49% choosing each option.

Americans Split on Outlook for U.S. Power

 

[Marauder06]

"China Is About To Monkey Stomp The S#!t Out Of Hong Kong. Here’s Why."

...China has positioned troops nearby, they’ve infiltrated special police, they’re cracking down on social media, and they’re doing a LOT of political signaling indicating that they’ve had about enough of Hong Kong’s crap. Moreover, the protests have gotten larger, more dynamic, and better able to deal with the local police’s crowd dispersal tactics. And, oh yeah, the protesters shut down the airport. Additionally, all of that US flag waving going on inside of Hong Kong has GOT to sting.You know what that means: “Bedtime with Bonzo” is over. “Curious George Tries To Protest” is gone. It’s now time for King Kong to take over.

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[R.Caerbannog]

"China Is About To Monkey Stomp The S#!t Out Of Hong Kong. Here’s Why."



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Not trying to nitpick and I'm sorry if I am. Pretty sure Taiwan is it's own country, just cause the Chicoms say they ain't doesn't make it so. Chicoms are also about to try and subjugate a densely packed multi-tiered city, without local support.

If the kids in HK can cobble together some IED's, incendiaries, and demo, those PRC transports may as well be carrying fish. Worse comes to worse, HK can bring down their city on top of the Chicoms. Maybe I'm wrong, but I get the feeling the PLA and mainland China aren't going to walk out of HK unscathed or unbroken.

 

[Marauder06]

Not trying to nitpick and I'm sorry if I am. Pretty sure Taiwan is it's own country, just cause the Chicoms say they ain't doesn't make it so. Chicoms are also about to try and subjugate a densely packed multi-tiered city, without local support.

If the kids in HK can cobble together some IED's, incendiaries, and demo, those PRC transports may as well be carrying fish. Worse comes to worse, HK can bring down their city on top of the Chicoms. Maybe I'm wrong, but I get the feeling the PLA and mainland China aren't going to walk out of HK unscathed or unbroken.

Relationship status: "it's complicated."
Political status of Taiwan - Wikipedia

 

[R.Caerbannog]

Relationship status: "it's complicated."
Political status of Taiwan - Wikipedia

Communist China still sounds like a vindictive ex who won't admit the relationship is over.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

Commie Chinese being commies. Those kids in HK make better Americans than the retard commie bootlickers that infect our country.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1193696326971789312

https://twitter.com/x/status/1193730708444893185

Add on: The PRC moved in non-indigenous police forces to subdue the HK protesters. In other words, the forces killing and brutalizing the protestors ain't from HK, they're Han Chinese from outside provinces. Just food for thought.

 

[CQB]

Yes, this was reported in the media here this morning. Bi-lingual Cantonese speakers, directing Mandarin speakers. Looks like the PAP are well & truly players now.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

Yes, this was reported in the media here this morning. Bi-lingual Cantonese speakers, directing Mandarin speakers. Looks like the PAP are well & truly players now.

Yep, that commie Winnie the Poop fucktard (Xi) is going to try and crush HK. Taiwan is going to end up being next if/when HK falls. I think the Chicom's influence might be rolled back if the surrounding countries leverage support to HK's fledgling upstarts. Problem is there are too many politicians and multinational corps in China's pockets.

This is just me, but I get the feeling that if HK's citizens were armed and had a semblance of training they could really fuck up China's police forces. Most of those Chicom goons would be easy picking for anyone with small arms, IEDs, and a modicum of training. It's not like HK is a big place, and most people know where the commies eat, sleep, and rest.

I dunno, that whole region is a tinderbox. The Chinese Miracle has turned into a plague on mankind.

 

[frostyred]

Fuck the Commies. I love the country of China, but I hate the people that have warped it's history, traditions, and direction over the last century.

-Your friendly neighborhood Mandarin Linguist

 

[ThunderHorse]

Yep, that commie Winnie the Poop fucktard (Xi) is going to try and crush HK. Taiwan is going to end up being next if/when HK falls. I think the Chicom's influence might be rolled back if the surrounding countries leverage support to HK's fledgling upstarts. Problem is there are too many politicians and multinational corps in China's pockets.

This is just me, but I get the feeling that if HK's citizens were armed and had a semblance of training they could really fuck up China's police forces. Most of those Chicom goons would be easy picking for anyone with small arms, IEDs, and a modicum of training. It's not like HK is a big place, and most people know where the commies eat, sleep, and rest.

I dunno, that whole region is a tinderbox. The Chinese Miracle has turned into a plague on mankind.

Hong Kong already fell. In 1997 when the UK ceded control back to China. There are Han Chinese police and regular Army troops throughout Hong Kong. The question is whether the West actually flexes their nuts. So far we haven't and the capital hasn't fled HK.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

Hong Kong already fell. In 1997 when the UK ceded control back to China. There are Han Chinese police and regular Army troops throughout Hong Kong. The question is whether the West actually flexes their nuts. So far we haven't and the capital hasn't fled HK.

I don't think they've fallen just yet. There is plenty of discontent against the mainland. Considering what the kids in HK are risking I think some outside aid might help turn the tide of Chicom expansion.

The Chinese aren't as strong as they make themselves to be. Act strong when you are weak, act weak when you are strong.

 

[CQB]

The Chinese aren't as strong as they make themselves to be. Act strong when you are weak, act weak when you are strong.

Perhaps, but look at every turn that’s occurred since Mao united the nation in 1949: the Great Leap Forward, The Cultural Revolution, Dengs economic reforms, joining the WTO (the other event in Sept. 2001, the same week actually) Tienenman Square & now HK. The economic decline of China has been mooted for a little while now, but hasn’t occurred. The CCP have adapted to each change. They’re survivors & not done yet.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

Perhaps, but look at every turn that’s occurred since Mao united the nation in 1949: the Great Leap Forward, The Cultural Revolution, Dengs economic reforms, joining the WTO (the other event in Sept. 2001, the same week actually) Tienenman Square & now HK. The economic decline of China has been mooted for a little while now, but hasn’t occurred. The CCP have adapted to each change. They’re survivors & not done yet.

You're right and those commie degenerates definitely aren't done yet. With China's demographic problem, I'll bet they'd happily murder 1/3 of their ethnic population to establish themselves as a power in the Pacific. As for the kids in HK, I doubt the Han have any problem with wiping out the locals in order to maintain 'harmony'. Mass murder and genocide are just how communists roll.

I think with HK we have a chance of rolling back the tentacles of Chicom influence. The world has let those commie cockroaches murder millions and grow in strength & wealth. I think it's time the world takes it's gloves off and lays bare China's bones.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Hong Kong is a part of China. It has Han Chinese leaders propped up by Han Chinese police. This has taken some time, but the two systems one China thing was never real for China. To say Hong Kong hasn't fallen isn't in line with Reality. It's China. The Han Chinese police that have deployed are starting to shoot people, why? There's no repercussion here. Trump isn't telling to Xi he better stop fucking or the trade talks are off and none of the EU countries give a shit.

It's funny, they cried a fuck ton about Crimea, but aren't saying much about Hong Kong and the place has been protesting for months. In August a ton of flights got cancelled because the Airport got cut off due to protests and the cops were playing hard ball. Until the money leaves (HSBC, Chase, Goldman, RBS, Societe Generale), it's business as usual.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

Hong Kong is a part of China. It has Han Chinese leaders propped up by Han Chinese police. This has taken some time, but the two systems one China thing was never real for China. To say Hong Kong hasn't fallen isn't in line with Reality. It's China. The Han Chinese police that have deployed are starting to shoot people, why? There's no repercussion here. Trump isn't telling to Xi he better stop fucking or the trade talks are off and none of the EU countries give a shit.

It's funny, they cried a fuck ton about Crimea, but aren't saying much about Hong Kong and the place has been protesting for months. In August a ton of flights got cancelled because the Airport got cut off due to protests and the cops were playing hard ball. Until the money leaves (HSBC, Chase, Goldman, RBS, Societe Generale), it's business as usual.

I don't think the people of HK are going to willingly let themselves be dragged into concentration camps. The pot is boiling over in HK, when everything comes to a head HK will be autonomous or it will be rubble. As for the banks, those cockroaches sold their souls to the Chinese a while ago. The 'money' stands to lose billions (maybe trillions) in assets if/when China collapses, they sure as shit ain't gonna help out HK.

I think the saying goes, "only a capitalist will sell you the rope you hang him with".

 

[Blizzard]

I couldn't find a better spot to post this and while it's not China/Taiwan per se, it is imperial China:
The Takeover: China Is Building Enormous Self-Sustaining Chinese Cities All Over The African Continent

It's not necessarily news to some here and, although it's an InfoWars article, it's an interesting read. Even if speculative, it speaks volumes to China's intents and potential. They are not bound by the social and political constraints of the West. Their actions present them with potentially huge leverage and even larger dividends.

 

[CQB]

I found this interesting in light of the above post by @Blizzard.
It should put the brakes on a bit.
China will get old before it gets rich - MoneyWeek

 

[Gunz]

I couldn't find a better spot to post this and while it's not China/Taiwan per se, it is imperial China:
The Takeover: China Is Building Enormous Self-Sustaining Chinese Cities All Over The African Continent

It's not necessarily news to some here and, although it's an InfoWars article, it's an interesting read. Even if speculative, it speaks volumes to China's intents and potential. They are not bound by the social and political constraints of the West. Their actions present them with potentially huge leverage and even larger dividends.

They've been essentially "conquering" through the construction of infrastructure.