I don't like that the NFL players are kneeling for the anthem and it's not something I would do. The form of protest they chose bothered me but I can seek to understand it.
You're 100% correct about homicides.
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I don't like that the NFL players are kneeling for the anthem and it's not something I would do. The form of protest they chose bothered me but I can seek to understand it.
You're 100% correct about homicides.
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I think all of you are missing Trumps ultimate goal. Seeing Kaepernick kneeling as a form of protest got him thinking, "is there a way to make the whole world protest within a few miles of me?"
I don't believe Trump has an ultimate goal other than accomplishing what he believes to be best for the country. Like any president before him, he will make miscalculations and hopefully that can be minimized. Interesting note though - his presidency has been the best thing to happen to the topic of racially divided societal issues and it's quite ironic.
These issues will remain relevant so long as opponents in the administration consider it an effective political play.
I'm not arguing for or against the validity of said issues. Frankly I don't give a shit - what I do care about is politicians, media, and the ivory tower types among protest organizations capitalizing on emotion to support a personal/political agenda. So many people believe this country has gone to shit for the simple reason that bad news is force-fed through all media sources.
These issues will remain relevant so long as opponents in the administration consider it an effective political play.
I'm not arguing for or against the validity of said issues. Frankly I don't give a shit - what I do care about is politicians, media, and the ivory tower types among protest organizations capitalizing on emotion to support a personal/political agenda. So many people believe this country has gone to shit for the simple reason that bad news is force-fed through all media sources.
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I do not, it was brought up in a group text I have with some buddies from work. I don't believe it's gotten any media coverage aside from Reddit at this point.
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Yeah it's floating around, I was trying to find an original source to get good context.
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If only everything was equal......
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Green Bay about to get booed at home: Statement from the Green Bay Packers players
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I think I have said it here, I don't mind protesting. I think sticking to your values and protesting according to your values is a good thing. My issue is the mechanism, and the apparent manufactured outrage since Trump tweeted what he did. I agree with red flag that this is totally overshadowing the very good charitable work that most of the players and teams do. I don't mind that this is creating a national dialogue, in fact I welcome it. But I fear that their actions are backing everybody into a corner, those who agree with those actions, and those who don't, and everyone will be sticking to their guns to The Bitter End.
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LOL
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Wake me when an NHL does it...those fans are a different kind of crazy.
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Very nice, Packers and Bears...
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What's great unity would be standing at attention with their hands over their hearts and then donating both time and money to inner city charities for at-risk youth from broken homes. Because the true leading cause of crime is young men raised without fathers.
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You know they don't do the latter? Do you do those things?
The whole dialogue thing is played the fuck out man. Create all the platforms, dialogues, Facebook rants, forum posts, apps, tinder pages whatever-the-hell and still... nothing has changed. If things were actually changing for the better from the perspective of those participating, would this situation currently exist?
Doubt it.
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They have way more money and way more time than I do. However, I've put my money where my mouth was when it came to Hurricane Harvey Relief donating to Rugby Relief (Didn't have the time, although I may get some soon), which is a fucking outstanding organization of Rugby Players that deployed 170 people in Houston to gut homes. Mostly to help Rugby people but it quickly became Rugby House on the block first and then the rest in a systematic fashion. They're still working. Puerto Rico is without power right now, place is fucked, and we're hearing about this shit. Why are you playing with this crap?
Like I have hear about this shit all day rather than how troops and ships are moving to the Caribbean to begin stability operations.
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While likely not your intent, your phrasing comes across as antagonistic towards another member.
Professional environment please; especially in these types of threads. We have at least two topics that are always just one misinterpreted phrase from blowing up into an angry dialog between any two members.
Thanks!
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Thought we talked about this very thing earlier.
@TLDR20 and @ThunderHorse you're taking a break from the thread.
@Ooh-Rah , thanks for the work, and everyone else, carry on.
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