The Trump Presidency 2.0

amlove21 said:
I love the JD Vance memes- this one was a banger. There was a follow on that said "Dhali Llama cancels meeting with JD Vance" and JD had the oompa loompa/fat JD face and it was magnifuque.
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Whenever I find someone who can't laugh at satire about "their guy/ career/ 'thing'/ whatever" I know I'm dealing with an intellectual potato.
 
amlove21 said:
That’s certainly one way to read it, especially if you hold overtly cynical biases towards the admin and its leader and don’t want to bring anything of value to the discussion.

Unmask the source, provide the proof, and I’ll go allllllllll the way back to the first time we addressed this nothingburger to exactly what I said- make your charge, support it, fire whenever you want.

We went through 5 pages of this already and not a single SME could clearly define what was classified, what reg/instruction/section/law was violated, just a bunch of feelings and conjecture.

Trump isn’t firing Hegseth. The DoD is on the right track and that output is enough to weather yet another manufactured scandal.

Miss me with the outrage we are doing more important things.

ETA for clarification of the above now bolded- Trump and the admin is saying they aren't going to fire him- I think the main reason here is that Trump has fired essentially (if not zero) no one from this admin as opposed to Trump 1.0. I think he's holding the line if you get appointed/approved, you keep the job cause fuck the haters. That being said- Trump also supported Gaetz publicly and privately all the way up until he couldn't. It's my opinion he doesn't fire Hegseth, for those reasons stated.
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I added substance to this post but it was a few pages back. Depending on how the SignalChatNothingburger part Deux works out, might be relevant, might not be.
 
amlove21 said:
I added substance to this post but it was a few pages back. Depending on how the SignalChatNothingburger part Deux works out, might be relevant, might not be.
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I think your ETA is pretty spot on. Trump is taking a much more hands-off/managerial position this go round and not getting into the fighting around/amongst the staff.

Pete won't go anywhere unless he begins to become damaging to Trump by association. If the second signal is proven (and is as been described) that might be what forces Trump's hand, but otherwise he can still deflect/ignore it.
I think the infighting between Pete and his guys he hired then fired may become a bigger deal than the chat tbh.
 
Cookie_ said:
I think your ETA is pretty spot on. Trump is taking a much more hands-off/managerial position this go round and not getting into the fighting around/amongst the staff.

Pete won't go anywhere unless he begins to become damaging to Trump by association. If the second signal is proven (and is as been described) that might be what forces Trump's hand, but otherwise he can still deflect/ignore it.
I think the infighting between Pete and his guys he hired then fired may become a bigger deal than the chat tbh.
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"Captains of a ship with a rebellious crew".
 
amlove21 said:
That’s certainly one way to read it, especially if you hold overtly cynical biases towards the admin and its leader and don’t want to bring anything of value to the discussion.

Unmask the source, provide the proof, and I’ll go allllllllll the way back to the first time we addressed this nothingburger to exactly what I said- make your charge, support it, fire whenever you want.

We went through 5 pages of this already and not a single SME could clearly define what was classified, what reg/instruction/section/law was violated, just a bunch of feelings and conjecture.

Trump isn’t firing Hegseth. The DoD is on the right track and that output is enough to weather yet another manufactured scandal.

Miss me with the outrage we are doing more important things.

ETA for clarification of the above now bolded- Trump and the admin is saying they aren't going to fire him- I think the main reason here is that Trump has fired essentially (if not zero) no one from this admin as opposed to Trump 1.0. I think he's holding the line if you get appointed/approved, you keep the job cause fuck the haters. That being said- Trump also supported Gaetz publicly and privately all the way up until he couldn't. It's my opinion he doesn't fire Hegseth, for those reasons stated.
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DoD (Especially at HQ) is full of so many liberal technocrats that would be fine in say the Department of Education, but need to get gone from the 5 sided building ASAP. Their focus is on ideology rather than preparing this country for war.

amlove21 said:
That’s certainly one way to read it, especially if you hold overtly cynical biases towards the admin and its leader and don’t want to bring anything of value to the discussion.

Unmask the source, provide the proof, and I’ll go allllllllll the way back to the first time we addressed this nothingburger to exactly what I said- make your charge, support it, fire whenever you want.

We went through 5 pages of this already and not a single SME could clearly define what was classified, what reg/instruction/section/law was violated, just a bunch of feelings and conjecture.

Trump isn’t firing Hegseth. The DoD is on the right track and that output is enough to weather yet another manufactured scandal.

Miss me with the outrage we are doing more important things.

ETA for clarification of the above now bolded- Trump and the admin is saying they aren't going to fire him- I think the main reason here is that Trump has fired essentially (if not zero) no one from this admin as opposed to Trump 1.0. I think he's holding the line if you get appointed/approved, you keep the job cause fuck the haters. That being said- Trump also supported Gaetz publicly and privately all the way up until he couldn't. It's my opinion he doesn't fire Hegseth, for those reasons stated.
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The last administration had no accountability, people are dead, but no one was fired or charged. So, since Jill set a new standard...may as well follow it.
 
AWP said:
...dealing with an intellectual potato.
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I'm confused by your metaphorical use of potatoes...

In some context an intellectual potato could refer to someone that is generally uninteresting, dull, unintelligent, or even unattractive - this is the environment where I excel - but it could also refer to the concept of a "smart potato" used in marketing and technology given the current trends in artificial intelligence and machine learning - things that I know nothing about.

Then of course since this IS a thread about the Trump Administration and thus the wide spread issue of mental health comes into play - it could even be referring to "sentient potatoes" - a playful way to describe oneself as a means of avoiding labels.

Maybe a sentient potato is just struggling to embrace a more fluid sense of identity...
...am I a radical follower of the MAGA today?
...am I feeling a twinge of TDS today?
...do I feel like a never Trumper today?
...did SecDef send those messages on Signal because he thought he was drunk texting AOC?
...did I forget to take my blood pressure meds?
...would I care to see a photo of Hillary in a revealing string bikini?
...how about now?

Is it possible that an interweb full of dank memes could be the glue that binds us all together and heals our deep seeded cultural and political wounds? Is it possible that we have gone from 4D chess to 7D chess to 11D chess and this is all just part of President Trumps plan ???
...does anybody have a photo of Hillary in a revealing string bikini?
 
Salt USMC said:
Elon Musk to step back from Doge as Tesla profits plunge

Does this mean I don’t have to submit my 5 weekly bullet points?
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Thanks to Elon for his remarkable and unprecedented service to this nation. He's the shining example of someone that came here, gained success, and gave back.

Who would have thought an entire media apparatus aligning against you and nationwide domestic terrorism would affect the bottom line, amirite?

ETA- Elon is a special service government employee that has a 130 day limit on his service. This limit has always existed, this isn't news or Elon quitting, it's been the timeline since DOGE was set to work.
 
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Making Rubio SecState has been as awesome as JD Vance as VP, incredible.

 
Box said:
I'm confused by your metaphorical use of potatoes...

In some context an intellectual potato could refer to someone that is generally uninteresting, dull, unintelligent, or even unattractive - this is the environment where I excel - but it could also refer to the concept of a "smart potato" used in marketing and technology given the current trends in artificial intelligence and machine learning - things that I know nothing about.

Then of course since this IS a thread about the Trump Administration and thus the wide spread issue of mental health comes into play - it could even be referring to "sentient potatoes" - a playful way to describe oneself as a means of avoiding labels.

Maybe a sentient potato is just struggling to embrace a more fluid sense of identity...
...am I a radical follower of the MAGA today?
...am I feeling a twinge of TDS today?
...do I feel like a never Trumper today?
...did SecDef send those messages on Signal because he thought he was drunk texting AOC?
...did I forget to take my blood pressure meds?
...would I care to see a photo of Hillary in a revealing string bikini?
...how about now?

Is it possible that an interweb full of dank memes could be the glue that binds us all together and heals our deep seeded cultural and political wounds? Is it possible that we have gone from 4D chess to 7D chess to 11D chess and this is all just part of President Trumps plan ???
...does anybody have a photo of Hillary in a revealing string bikini?
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I'm going to type a phrase my wife says to me on an almost daily basis:

What the fuck is wrong with you?
 
AWP said:
I'm going to type a phrase my wife says to me on an almost daily basis:

What the fuck is wrong with you?
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That is the question.
How is the sausage made?

Riddle me this though - does anyone ever REALLY want to know how the sausage is made?
...verily I say unto thee, no
...no they do not

A trip into that sausage factory would expose the innocent to a level of unpleasant, messy, gruesome, disillusioning, and downright disturbing details that are far too complicated and unsettling for the average person to even grasp.


I am curious though - what was it about my post that crossed the line?
Was it my query about the bikini photo?
I feel like it may have been the query about the bikini photo.
 
AWP said:
I'm going to type a phrase my wife says to me on an almost daily basis:

What the fuck is wrong with you?
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Box said:
I am curious though - what was it about my post that crossed the line?
Was it my query about the bikini photo?
I feel like it may have been the query about the bikini photo.
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Back away @AWP. He's going to start channeling Frank S. Don't push him over the edge.


Lordy I miss Frank S.
 
re: Hegseth leakers.

The man talking is a DoD Branch Chief- not super high up, but high enough up to not to be insubordiante on video cause he's on a date and being horny.

The video is damning enough- but here is my takeaway. How many of the arguments on these pages sound like this guy? Is this "resistance in support of the constitution," or is this anti-American sedition, undermining the administration from a position of power openly?

If it's the latter, and your argument against the SECDEF (appointed by the sole head of the Executive, the one person in America that every citizen votes for, and enacts the will of the populace) sounds like his- maybe you should really explore your argument and look internally. When your talking points align exactly with what @Marauder06 would label a great example of NOT the "deep state", maybe think about your internal biases.

To loosely quote my man Young Gerald- "Most of y'all should probably party less and focus more, and if my post resonates then you're the one I wrote it for." I had no one person or group in mind, but if this post makes you feel some type of way, then I am definitely talking to you.

 
So, you guys tell me there's not a deep state and stuff, the deep state is the organization that just tries to hamper the sitting executive for its own means and desires.

I can agree that getting a peace deal that is real is good, do I think Russia will abide? No, Putin don't abide by shit. But actively leaking bullshit needs to end.

 
I'm having a hard time trying to decide.

I need to see the results of a few conservative saying something like this about the guy that sodomized a government clerk and then questioned the meaning of the word "is"
...if a conservative could say THE EXACT SAME THING about a duly elected democrat POTUS without being found several days later after shooting themselves in the head and then disposing of the suicide weapon

well - maybe this guy "could" just be an example of patriotic resistance
or he could just be a seditious prick
I just get really confused whenever the topic of "election interference" comes up because then I think about those 9 straight years that people spent claiming that Trump stole the election from Hillary...
...and when I think of Hillary, the next thing that pops into in my head is that mother fucking "revealing string bikini image"
...then I can't sleep for two or three days
 
I wanna be clear here, I don't agree with the "ignore the orders" opinion of the OP. However, when the MSM engages in breathless outrage to fire Hegseth and then the judiciary organizes a resistance for the output of using taxpayer dollars to provide gender transition surgery in the DoD- it sort of makes me think that we aren't a serious country right now and the folks pushing for this nonsense aren't on Team America.

 

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