The Trump Presidency 2.0

[AWP]

We're just over a year into Trump 2.0. While I subscribe to the belief that you can't really judge a president's effectiveness until about a decade out of office, I'm curious what everyone sees as his best and worst moments since last year's inauguration.

I'd have to go with foreign policy and USAID on the positive side and the DOJ's/ FBI's complete failure as his worst by a mile. I'd have to pick messaging as a secondary because of some ignored opportunities to drive home Democrat failures.

 

[The Quartermaster]

We're just over a year into Trump 2.0. While I subscribe to the belief that you can't really judge a president's effectiveness until about a decade out of office, I'm curious what everyone sees as his best and worst moments since last year's inauguration.

I'd have to go with foreign policy and USAID on the positive side and the DOJ's/ FBI's complete failure as his worst by a mile. I'd have to pick messaging as a secondary because of some ignored opportunities to drive home Democrat failures.

I'm at the point in my life where I either vote for good or for evil and sometimes for the lesser evil, and there was a time in my life when it was voting for who I thought was best for our interests with no hard feelings for the other. But that all stopped after Bill Clinton and both Obama and Biden made sure to seal that door shut and regard them all as evil.

Trump was both times, the lesser evil. I will no longer listen to RINOS, lolberts, and the D's. I am tired of them all with their dehumanizing and making enemies out of people over disagreements with opinions not shared or respected by the other. That's evil, pure evil IMO.

 

[Topkick]

DOJ's/ FBI's complete failure

Couldn't agree more. He made campaign promises and then unabashedly asked Patel and Bondi to disregard those promises.

I support Trump, but doesn't mean I agree with everything. He promised to drain the swamp and now it seems he's covering for them. I'm old enough to remember "Lock her up"

#Uniparty.

 

[AWP]

For everyone, I'm not trying to start shit so I hope it wasn't taken that way. I'm curious on everyone's take because there's a lot to digest and we won't all necessarily have the same POV.

 

[Box]

So...

How many folks - ON THIS BOARD - remember thinking - and subsequently DECLARING - that Candidate Trump simply was NOT presidential enough to be the President because he said shit like "lock her up"
How many folks remember that time when "conservatives" spent 10 years bashing Trump because of his abrasiveness...
...towards people that LITERALLY called him a LITERAL Nazi?

PEPPERIDGE MOTHERFUCKING FARMS REMEMBERS !!!

Now, how many folks have turned milquetoast in their outlook towards Trump -ESPECIALLY - when he isn't wagging his dick at people from the podium?
-oooh, he's not doing what he promised
-oooh he's gone soft
-oooh, why is he treating his detractors with kid gloves
-he should LOCK THEM UP
-why isn't Trump trying to lock these people up ??

All - the while - as the aperture continues to open - it is more and more
and more
and more
and more
and more
apparent that THE LEFT - the party of civil unrest - the party of civil war - seems to have started, cultivated, covered up, and denied so many of the things that made so many people contract TDS in the first place !!!

He accused people of election fraud...
*** VIRTUE SIGNALERS WAILING AND GNASHING THEIR TEETH ***
...there is no evidence of fraud
...throw the book at him

-CORRUPTION AND FRAUD ARE FOUND AND PROVEN
*** VIRTUE SIGNALERS - silent ***
Also virtue signalers:
***WAILING AND GNASHING THEIR TEETH - WHY ISNT TRUMP PUNISHING THESE PEOPLE***

My question:
What people are we talking about?
Are we talking about the people that have gotten a free pass from the left and the "virtuous conservatives" for 24 of the last 25 years ?
Are we talking about people that will IMMEDIATELY trigger a "WHY IS TRUMP TRYING TO JAIL HIS OPPONENTS" response when they are held accountable?
was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
HELL NO!
...and it aint over now !!!


whatever



aM3r!C@n$ need to make up their fucking minds

 

[Topkick]

CORRUPTION AND FRAUD ARE FOUND AND PROVEN
*** VIRTUE SIGNALERS - silent ***
Also virtue signalers:
***WAILING AND GNASHING THEIR TEETH - WHY ISNT TRUMP PUNISHING THESE PEOPLE***

At this point, I think we all know its a uniparty and know nobody is ever really held accountable. I'd just rather not hear any flip-flop opining from either side.

 

[The Quartermaster]

For everyone, I'm not trying to start shit so I hope it wasn't taken that way. I'm curious on everyone's take because there's a lot to digest and we won't all necessarily have the same POV.

Oh I know. It's just that fatigue you mentioned already having days ago? I am now there, and the more I find out just how corrupt the system is and how many evil persons exist with the left from politicians to insurrectionists, terrorists, and seditionists, the more I am no longer caring at what Trump does so long as he keeps making them mad and madder.

So that's where I am with Trump's second presidency. I am politically overtired. Like doing 24 hours duty and your relief decided to go AWOL on a four day and no one is around to find a hey you to relieve you at some point. That's how overtired I am with this all.

 

[Box]

It's been a uniparty since the republican helped pass Clintons assault weapons ban some 30 years ago. The only time our government "works" for the rank and file citizen is when they are ideologically gridlocked.
I'm completely ok when politicians flip flop.
Its what they do.

It's when "citizens" decide to flip flop that I get frustrated...
...and that should say something coming from a politicly biased cynical hypocrite that sweetness his coffee with whataboutism

Gridlock is the only thing left protecting the Bill of Rights
...sorry, I meant, the only thing keeping the Bill of Government Approved Privileges on life support

 

[DA SWO]

Trump foreign policy has been hit and miss.
Iran, Venezuela; hits
Crowing about Canada becomes our 51st state gave their Liberal Party the victory.
Greenland is another self inflicted wound.
Gas is down, inflation down, hits
Immigration is a hit.
Half the missing kids located, hit.
DOJ is a massive miss.
He is 0-3 on AG picks.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Greenland is a miss, but is really a push. Could have been a triple had he just gone to Denmark and said hey we want these concessions kthxbai.

 

[Topkick]

I'm completely ok when politicians flip flop.
Its what they do.

Trump is not a politician....they said.

 

[Marauder06]

So...

How many folks - ON THIS BOARD - remember thinking - and subsequently DECLARING - that Candidate Trump simply was NOT presidential enough to be the President because he said shit like "lock her up"
How many folks remember that time when "conservatives" spent 10 years bashing Trump because of his abrasiveness...
...towards people that LITERALLY called him a LITERAL Nazi?

PEPPERIDGE MOTHERFUCKING FARMS REMEMBERS !!!

I don't know if I declared it (it's possible; it was a long time ago) but I certainly thought it. Candidate Trump was brash, abrasive, irreverent, and immoral. He had no governance experience. Until recently, he bounced back and forth between being a D or an R. He was an entertainer. And I didn't WANT an entertainer, I wanted someone who would deliver on what I wanted from America. I was shocked when he got the R nomination. Then the "grab them by the pussy" kerfuffle. No way he could overcome that. Plus he was running against Hillary Clinton, who had name recognition, experience in government, and was the country's first chance to have a woman president. No way I was going to vote for her, but no way she could lose.

So not only did I not vote for him the first time he ran, I didn't vote at all.

Then, against my expectations, he WON. And he did a pretty good job in his first term. Or, at least, it was good in comparison to what followed.

And then, seeing the country lose its collective mind during his first term, with things like the Kavanaugh confirmation, BLM, the trans insanity, Ukraine, the Israel/Hamas wars, the economy, Afghanistan... I began to have a few realizations. The one most relevant for this conversation is that, at the national and international level, morality doesn't matter. It just doesn't. On any side. Only suckers think it does. I want someone who will has the best chance of delivering on the things that I think are important. If that's a person of high moral character, great; if not, then I'll look for an live morality in my own life and hold my nose while I press the button. And in the last two elections, the person I thought might deliver hasn't been the other guy.


Trump turns out to be "presidential" enough that I voted for him the last two elections and still support him now.

 

[Topkick]

Trump turns out to be "presidential" enough that I voted for him the last two elections and still support him now.

I voted for him every time and still believe he's the best option. He's tried to fulfill most of his campaign promises, therefore making it more disappointing on the rare occasions he flip flops.

 

[Box]

Trump turns out to be "presidential" enough that I voted for him the last two elections and still support him now.

That's the difference in my outlook.
Having your own opinion is the beauty of our system. It's OK for someone to not like what's on the menu.

It's also OK to spectate - take in the scenery - be observant - take notes...
...and then update your opinion if needed.
The position that brash, abrasive, irreverent, and immoral is not what I'm looking for in my national elected officials is quite alright. I'd even say admirable. It demonstrates a principled and relatively unbiased approach to selecting someone to hold the keys to the executive washroom.

The real frustration is from the legion of folks that are professional contrarians.
When Brash, abrasive, irreverent, and immoral don't apply to "your" guy - but brash, abrasive, irreverent, and immoral is considered a disqualification for "my" guy then things begin to break down.

Because Joe Biden
Because, the Clintons
Because - MOST - of the currently seated politicians.
A large section of the populace seemed to think it was ok for radical left wingers to butt fuck one another in congressional chambers - and then post videos
...but a guy commenting on the ease of use as it relates to gold digging socialites is just UN-ACK-SEPTABLE

I just dont see the nuance.

Democrats didnt give a shit when democrats burned the Branch Dividians to death
or shot Randy Weavers wife
or infringed on law abiding, tax paying CITIZEN gun rights
...but suddenly they advocate and riot over the rights of criminals and foreign invaders
...because TRUMP is "LITERALLY HITLER"

If I'm wrong - well, then I'm wrong - admittedly, I am having a hard time reading the code in the matrix...
...maybe I just need someone to help me understand the nuance.

 

[amlove21]

We're just over a year into Trump 2.0. While I subscribe to the belief that you can't really judge a president's effectiveness until about a decade out of office, I'm curious what everyone sees as his best and worst moments since last year's inauguration.

I'd have to go with foreign policy and USAID on the positive side and the DOJ's/ FBI's complete failure as his worst by a mile. I'd have to pick messaging as a secondary because of some ignored opportunities to drive home Democrat failures.

Agree here. BBB was good for middle class. DoW generally (specifically SecState) has been a fucking home run. Immigration (border specifcially) is great. Deportations too slow but moving.

Messaging sucks. Staying on task sucks (trying to boil the ocean). Pam Bondi sucks. Susie Wiles sucks. Kash SUUUUUUCKS. Outputs suck. Optics are gonna optic, doesn't help for midterms.

Only 2 midterms in history haven't been a referendum on the sitting president, no reason to think these won't follow suit.

Two things here- 1, Republicans are absolutely SMOKING the DNC on fundraising. DNC has massive debt, Republicans outraising them 1.75/1, way more cash on hand so they can throw money at it. 2, polling is fake from both sides. No way to tell. You're going to see attack ads EVERYWHERE about riots, attacks on federal officers, resistance to SAVE and other generally good things, Democrats don't have the dollars to send and they already shot their wad a bit.

What are they going to say? Trump is Hitler? America is fascist and racist? Trump is in the EpFiles?

We shall see.

 

[The Quartermaster]

Sniping a woman holding her kid, because they had ambushed the family and all over...a barrel length on a guy that was a Green Beret and had served his country honorably.

And no outrage. What we got instead was an actual terrorist wanting revenge for both that and Waco who blew up OKC for it and murdered the wrong people for it.

Over a barrel length that wasn't paid for the milk cow....of all the terrible things a person could have done, THAT was not even on anyone's bingo card, unless one who happens to hate Americans and hates gun owners, especially veteran gun owners even more that are also white males. The FUCK.

 

[AWP]

Two things here- 1, Republicans are absolutely SMOKING the DNC on fundraising. DNC has massive debt, Republicans outraising them 1.75/1, way more cash on hand so they can throw money at it.

Great point I hadn't followed, but once you made it I remembered the DNC has a history of being in debt. A lot of debt.

All of Hollywood's money, Soros checks, all of the illegal streams of money and somehow the DNC is in debt? Somehow Kamala outspent her account by how many tens of millions?

I've harped on this over and over when the DNC laundered money for Hillary in 2016. The DNC has been broke for over a decade. where's the money going? Why aren't rank and files Democrats asking that question? 2020's BLM nonsense? The donation page (for this grassroots organization!) linked to? The DNC. They grifted from the grifters! That's like skimming from the mob's skim in Vegas.

And they are still out of money?

 

[amlove21]

Great point I hadn't followed, but once you made it I remembered the DNC has a history of being in debt. A lot of debt.

All of Hollywood's money, Soros checks, all of the illegal streams of money and somehow the DNC is in debt? Somehow Kamala outspent her account by how many tens of millions?

I've harped on this over and over when the DNC laundered money for Hillary in 2016. The DNC has been broke for over a decade. where's the money going? Why aren't rank and files Democrats asking that question? 2020's BLM nonsense? The donation page (for this grassroots organization!) linked to? The DNC. They grifted from the grifters! That's like skimming from the mob's skim in Vegas.

And they are still out of money?

Yeah, crazy right?

I remember the Dark Elon President arc, where he nuked all those NGOs and USAID and outed these dark money groups...and suddenly- the democrats are not only bleeding money (donor pool dried up), but the billions they spent on Kamala under the assumption that they'd be gucci on the back end.

Something something something correlation/causation. But the facts are the facts.

 

[amlove21]

We're just over a year into Trump 2.0. While I subscribe to the belief that you can't really judge a president's effectiveness until about a decade out of office, I'm curious what everyone sees as his best and worst moments since last year's inauguration.

I'd have to go with foreign policy and USAID on the positive side and the DOJ's/ FBI's complete failure as his worst by a mile. I'd have to pick messaging as a secondary because of some ignored opportunities to drive home Democrat failures.

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Maybe I just can't read a graph. Trump was President in 2024?