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Blows my mind that half of congress voted against Hegseth. They voted every other asshole in with record numbers, but not Hegseth.
He was the one that it was OK to really hate. Kind of like Trump was in his first and second elections. If you want to grandstand and pretend things like character and personality matter, this was the guy to do it against.
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Preface this by saying I voted for Trump…not because I believe that he’s the answer, but because I felt left with no better option.
In regards to Hegseth, I’m having a difficult time believing that he was the best option. His personal challenges are a non-factor to me, and his military background will resonate with the Services; as will his history of Veteran advocacy. But I just don’t see anything in his background that makes me believe that he has the top level experience to efficiently navigate the Pentagon bureaucracy as it exists; I’m concerned that he will be easily influenced because he does not know better, or worse, dig in his heels on something because he does not understand the consequences.
I use myself as an example. I’ve been with the same company for many years, I am a successful and well thought of middle manager, and have a pretty good feel for what makes the wheels spin. That said, if I got an email tomorrow that I was being promoted to CEO, I’d be in way over my head and miserably fail. That is my concern with Hegseth.
In my scenario I’d do my best to surround myself with smart people who could guide me, but I don’t know that he will do that; especially if he is taking order from Trump, who tends to bring into his circle sycophants versus people who will challenge and oppose him. ( I accept in advance that that statement may be challenged and pushed back against, but that’s how I feel)
@R.Caerbannog - what is it about Hegseth’s background or experience that causes you to be in favor of him, that makes you believe he will be successful? Please do not say things like ‘draining the swamp’ or ‘cutting through the bureaucracy’ because someone who had more experience at those levels should in theory, be better qualified to navigate and break through those things.
I’m genuinely curious what you believe makes him the right choice.
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Not to say we're all being played or anything, but Hegseth is anti-establishment. Every SecDef in the last 30 years was a member of the political established or the Military Establishment. He had some nonsense in his past and some harsh comments about women in combat arms when we're lowering standards for schools so we can have women in Regiment (who then sleep around). (Rumors, I know, but they're floating) So a few female Republican Senators puts some tweets out and he still gets confirmed. Political Theater. Maybe even Gaetz was the lamb that needed to be sacrificed? Well he gets to go be some talking head and earn a ton of money.
You want to fundamentally change the system, so you need someone from outside of that system. To navigate the system, you need someone from within the system. Is Hegseth the right guy for the job? Dunno. Does he deserve a chance to succeed or fail? By 1 vote or 100, he's now the Man in the Arena.
I don't think he's going to be a huge success or failure. I think he's going to be the Kool Aid man who busts down some walls and gives the DoD room to "breathe" so to speak. I also think he's going to realize solutions are clear and easy sitting at Fox, but far less so from the Puzzle Palace.
He has his chance to Pass or Fail. He's now the Man in the Arena. Time to let him cook.
I don't think he's going to be a huge success or failure. I think he's going to be the Kool Aid man who busts down some walls and gives the DoD room to "breathe" so to speak. I also think he's going to realize solutions are clear and easy sitting at Fox, but far less so from the Puzzle Palace.
He has his chance to Pass or Fail. He's now the Man in the Arena. Time to let him cook.
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I can't guarantee he'll be successful, but I agree with the changes he wants to make. If he surrounds himself with like- minded people who he can trust, I think he will succeed. Most of the things he wants are really just retro and common sense. I get a kick out of the woke progressives thinking we are actually progressing.
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Thank you for avoiding the hyperbole and instead focusing on well thought out examples and scenarios of why you believe he will be successful.
He's not a woke, politically correct, cocksucker. That's why.
Given that the Pentagon is full of REMF's that believe women belong in the Infantry, pushed DEI degeneracy down our throats, and lost wars for us, I hope Hesgeth scours the place.
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America is back!!!! Wooooot!!!!!
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‘Calexit’ initiative could see Californians deciding whether they want the Golden State to leave the US
This won't happen because it's just a small percentage of delusional leftists, but I think it would be interesting to let them secede and see how fast they realized they fucked up. Then, it would be fun to invade their country, take it back, and install a puppet administration.
This won't happen because it's just a small percentage of delusional leftists, but I think it would be interesting to let them secede and see how fast they realized they fucked up. Then, it would be fun to invade their country, take it back, and install a puppet administration.
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‘Calexit’ initiative could see Californians deciding whether they want the Golden State to leave the US
This won't happen because it's just a small percentage of delusional leftists, but I think it would be interesting to let them succeed and see how fast they realized they fucked up. Then, it would be fun to invade their country, take it back, and install a puppet administration.
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Yes, you’ve made it clear that you enjoy using memes and links to make your points, which is fine, but why are you avoiding actually defending your position? You’ve been vocal about your belief that Hegseth will be a strong choice for SecDef, and I’m genuinely curious as to why. I’m not trying to mess with you, I’m honestly looking for a reason to feel confident about him since we’re likely stuck with the man for the next four years.
This isn’t the dot thread. If you’re not interested in participating in meaningful discussion here, then keep the memes there and stop dropping one-liners just to stir the pot before disappearing.
‘Calexit’ initiative could see Californians deciding whether they want the Golden State to leave the US
This won't happen because it's just a small percentage of delusional leftists, but I think it would be interesting to let them succeed and see how fast they realized they fucked up. Then, it would be fun to invade their country, take it back, and install a puppet administration.
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That's the beauty of memes. You can convey the absurdity of a complex topic and absolutely shatter a carefully crafted consensus using a simple image. Back in 2019, when you and others forbade talking about the Biden's and Hunter's laptop, the image below would have shown the absurdity of some of your collective positions (pre 2019-20).
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As for everything else... have you read some of your posts dude? For example.
Per the bolded, did you forget the freak shows and traitorous bureaucrats from the previous administration? What about the false accusations made by these people or the DNC being the party of "sane adults"? Cause we have entire threads going back 8+ years showcasing their lunacy.
Here, lemme refresh your memory of these "smart people" and what they've done.
Why the memory refresh? You're essentially arguing that Hegseth is inexperienced and will do what President Trump tells him. Guess what? That's why I want him there. He's not some brainwashed, closet Marxist, DEI hire. Dude's a grunt and I bet he's pissed about how the Pentagon and State Dept. fucked up Afghanistan and sabotaged our military with DEI/neo-Marxist garbage. As for experienced counsel... there are plenty of other people, who aren't backstabbing DC sycophants, that actually care about National Security.
So before you say I don't, "participate in meaningful discussion". Go back and check the archives, along with the date and time of my postings. I've been pretty good at calling things. Given our "interactions" over the past 9+ years, I don't trust you. Hence me drip feeding information.
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The DoD bureaucracy is wildly larger than it was in WWII due to lobbying and the deep state techocracy that wants to keeps its jobs. Everyone tells us how technology should streamline things and stuff.
Well...it should be easier to have permanent staff roles for Colonels who are just not able to be commanders but can be great staffers to be permanent colonels again. These used to exist. Then Permanent Brigadier Generals. But the volume of 2 stars and 3 stars that float around for staff roles is WILD. In some of these commands you have a 2 star leading a staff section because you're using it as a warming bench...how long is that effective. We have Corps HQs which now are higher than Army HQs as we've relegated Armies to sustainment commands. Yet both are 3 star commands and the Army HQ is generally not led by an officer whose trade is that of a sustainer. There is no way in hell that our current conflicts are so much more complicated that needed to add an onion's worth of bureaucracy
Our current force structure is effed.
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Y'all remember that when Jill was elected to office the talking heads said that America was voting for a return to normal politics, the kind where you screamed at each other in person and your mistresses stayed quiet because the .gov was the organization behind paying your settlement and not your own pocketbook.
Well, what we got was not normal, what we got was an attack on normal society. That is why Trump won, to drain the swamp, but to get Washington back to a place where normal is the norm. To get rid of Child Groomers who are pushing the drag shows in libraries and the chemical castration of 6 year olds by their liberal crazy parents.
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I'm not trying to be controversial but I'm curious why you think he is not a good choice? Lloyd was extremely "qualified" and look what a shit job he did...
I'm sick of the establishment. Hence my support for Trump. The reasons "they" don't like them are the reasons I do.
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