The fork is back on the table.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...d-with-government-employee-buyout-2025-02-12/
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...d-with-government-employee-buyout-2025-02-12/
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Seems like the ruling is stating there is no standing, because nothing's happened yet to demonstrate harm to union members. OPM will have to not follow through on the agreement for someone to sue.
Too bad you've gotta waive your legal rights if you resign.
From the actual document:
ThunderHorse
Verified Military
There is no harm to union members, you're volunteering to leave.
I took a buyout in 2003. They are not new.
Just to the ol' pocketbook of the union.
Right, I'm not disagreeing with this point.
The union has to wait until after the admin doesn't follow through with the email to sue.
The lack of follow through isn't guaranteed, but resignation wording and lack of appropriations makes it seem like it may not. Time will tell.
ThunderHorse
Verified Military
Where's the chaser?
Devildoc
Verified Military
Congratulations, Mr. Secretary....
This is one of those things where DOGE really, really should consult with DoD to just ask “Hey, what is this?” before blasting it out there. Having used TR services as part of my job, I’m pretty sure this is not funding what you think it is.
SECDEF already on board. In fairness- I’m pretty sure this funding is *also* not what you think it is.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
The Senate votes are kind of fascinating when you start to look at the breakdown of votes.
U.S. Senate: Roll Call Votes 119th Congress - 1st Session (2025)
U.S. Senate: Roll Call Votes 119th Congress - 1st Session (2025)
ThunderHorse
Verified Military
But you're suing for payment of the severance, this is voluntary. Again, no damages will occur unless the Congress fails to fund the government. So your issue is with Congress.
Horse trading, like any spending bill. Also about appearances.
What do you think it is?
I agree that sunlight is the best disinfectant, however posting up line items from a spreadsheet with no context - good bad or otherwise - is just asking for misinterpretation. It’s how we got that stupid JADE HELM controversy in 2015. A spooky sounding name with some graphics leaks and a segment of the country lost their minds over it.
Devildoc
Verified Military
So if I see an item on the DoD spreadsheet for $1,350,000,500 for "booze, blow, and hoes," I am to infer it is not, in fact, for "booze, blow, and hoes"?
That's just the cultural engagement budget for 7th group.
Devildoc
Verified Military
I tried it once with my GTCC and they NJP'd me and took my card away....
That would be something like “Recreation & Party services”.
If only we could be so lucky
Well yeah cause people are stupid- I took part in JADE HELM, and immediately discounted the public outcry because a lot of it came out of a small town in NM, where I was on the helicopters people reported as "taking over the mountain with SEALs". It's pretty simple to look at that event, look at the information given, and go, "Oh, this is dumb." No context needed.
Here is the contract on usaspending.gov. - scroll down and look at the first graph. Notice anything weird about the years where spending exploded? Keep scrolling down- "large scale social deception" and "active social engineering defense" is pretty interesting, no? To an American company? On American soil?
Dig a little deeper on the site and check out Thomson Reuters LLC- they were actually awarded $13.6M in the child contract, with $4.72M going to "Internet Publishing and Broadcasting"... so they were using the internet to engage in large scale deception and active social engineering defense... to decieve whom? And defend against what, exactly? Now if you want to intimate that because some hills have eyes locals made some facebook posts about JADE HELM and ipso facto a vetted contract award from a .gov site is just a "random spreadsheet", I am not here to tell you you're wrong. But also, given the last few weeks, I can't possibly understand that position.
I think it falls in the same bucket as all of the other things DOGE is uncovering- we (collectively) don't know what any of it is. I can sit here and intimate that I was read into programs that seem innocuous or shady that provide a valuable and live-saving tactical purpose, especially in the PR realm- but that makes me sound douchey. I had no clue how much money was awarded to those programs and if it was used effectively, and I 100% can't say it wasn't wasted, or worse- used against Americans.
Given the tranche of malfeasance we are seeing, I'll use Occams razor and assume that the DoD funding a news organization for "large scale deception" and "active social engineering defense" during a time where the Biden admin was leveraging big tech and media to run psyops against the American people, here in America, leads me to suspect that it's not some super secret development program, cause, you know, I have eyes, and I don't trust the government.
BL- I think you're operating from the premise that there could be a super secret and necessary reason to pay Thomson Reuters Special Services LLC $60.21M (that is one of more than 20 separate LLCs that Reuters has on the site, and they operate worldwide) to engage in "large scale deception" and "active social engineering defense". I am operating from the position that we know the government has vetted programs like PROJECT MOCKINGBIRD, and the more we uncover, the more I am sure there is malfeasance, and until the government accounts for every penny and explains why we need it- I don't believe it.
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