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ICE deported several illegal aliens who were in violation of USC8 Sec 1324 and those parents decided to take their naturalized children with them. Go check the link @Topkick already posted, all of them are listed. Appeal to emotion using kids to further your apparent bias, -1.
Hoax is still live.
I just preemptively know the counterarguement would be "Trump's a troll" and was addressing it upfront. There's a common post used, helpfully seen in this J.K Rowling.
'That never happens' -> 'That hardly never happens' -> 'it happens but what about other bad stuff that happens' -> 'why are you obsessed with it happening' -> 'so what if it happens? It's not that serious.'
— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) February 21, 2024
None of us are unique snowflakes. We all are on various sides of this line of thinking, depending on the topic.
You'll accuse us of moving goal posts on topic xyz, then you'll move goalposts to defend ABC. That's not an indictment of anyone's character on here; we all have different levels of acceptance and focus for different things.
I'm not a "frightened retard" about this anymore than I would call anyone talking about the numerous gun law in the 2A threads a "frightened retard". I'm concerned because of what's being said/directed, but if it is "just a Hoax" or Trump "being a troll" then I'll be happy to eat crow about being concerned over what became nothing.
You will, if history has proven anything. If you internalized anything in my post as talking directly to you, that one's on you.
We have done this a million times. Every single time, it turns out it wasn't a "Maryland man", it was an MS13 gang member. It's not deporting children cancer patients, it's the mother taking them with them. It's not "there are very fine people on both sides", the list goes on ad nauseum.
I'll skip the outrage, let me know when the legislation gets passed and this isn't very obviously fear mongering meant to trigger frightened retards into Blue-Anon breathless doomposting.
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Not exactly deported though.
Not gonna lie, but if you are the parent of a child and they're residing with the illegal parent for whatever reason, you should probably remove them from the custody of the other parent given the actual enforcement of the law right now. It hasn't been like this since Clinton was POTUS. Bush II was soft on illegals.
The issue with all of these becomes "what do you do with the children?" Parents either choose to retain custody and take the children with them or transfer them to the state or a family member who is either a lawful resident or citizen.
But that's why these Children are called anchor babies, they provide an anchor for the individual to achieve permanent residency or citizenship. There is a pathway to permanent residency for the parents of citizens.
Bringing Parents to Live in the United States as Permanent Residents | USCIS
Just to button up the last OuTrAgE and ‘threat to democracy’- no, Trump isn’t seeking a third term even though he trolled you into believing it with a tweet. Anyone seeing a pattern? No?
Shout to @AWP and his Rubio assessment- Prez names him as a possible frontrunner in ‘28.
Shout to @AWP and his Rubio assessment- Prez names him as a possible frontrunner in ‘28.
Interesting program from DHS. Basically one way ticket to country of origin+1k when verified you've left.
People like money, and 1k is a lot for some aliens. Might see numbers with this one.
DHS Announces Historic Travel Assistance and Stipend for Voluntary Self-Deportation | Homeland Security
People like money, and 1k is a lot for some aliens. Might see numbers with this one.
DHS Announces Historic Travel Assistance and Stipend for Voluntary Self-Deportation | Homeland Security
Add a kicker that you can still apply for a visa.
Oh look- domestic terrorism. Organized, funded, supported and cheered by the left.
Kind of in the same vein, kind of not, but listening to a podcast about the Philippine-American War I saw a parallel. One tactic A. MacArthur used was to offer guerilla leaders amnesty. Lay down your arms, tell your guys to do the same, and you get a clean slate. Some of the most notorious guerillas were even given governorships. The US gave them an out and that insurrection disappeared almost overnight.
I don't recall us doing this in Iraq or Afghanistan though maybe we did.
How many illegal Cubans came here and we embraced them? Some of those folks are more American than modern Americans.
Punt the illegals and give them a path back, we need to overhaul some of our legal policies anyway. The party that does this wins that demographic for years to come and history has proven this time and time again. Strong, firm measures but with a legal path forward pays dividends for the gaining country. The unchecked violence and economic drain in Europe are classic results of unlimited immigration policies.
I am totally on board with this. It satisfies people like me (totally voted for mass deportations and an overhaul of the immigration system) and also satisfies people that want a path to citizenship that doesn't take 15 years. The people it leaves in the middle- people that don't want anyone deported and also want those people to be citizens- make for good content. Cause smooth brain.
To your bolded, there was a clip of an African immigrant absolutely flaming the most dangerous demographic in America right now, the middle aged privileged white liberal woman. It was awesome. Let me try and find it. Basically he was just shaming her at a protest for saying America is trash and needs to be overhauled completely, Trump is a fascist, the standard fare.
His main point was, "What's your goal? You want America destroyed? You can't build anything. You don't want to create- what happens when you get your goal? I have Africa to go back to if America fails- where are you going to go? Africa won't be nice to you. Europe is overrun by immigrants. Somalis having grenade fights in Sweden. What is your point?"
Of course, she had no answer.
This is what happens when a democrat moves towards the center- the penalty for apostasy is death.
Liberals who rallied behind Fetterman post-stroke in 2022 turn on pro-Israel senator after NY Magazine report
No wonder Dem polling remains at an all time low, and continues to dig. People are over it.
Liberals who rallied behind Fetterman post-stroke in 2022 turn on pro-Israel senator after NY Magazine report
No wonder Dem polling remains at an all time low, and continues to dig. People are over it.
Nothing new for American politics, unfortunately.
Republicans have treated "RINOs" like this for about as long as I've been aware of politics, so no suprise to me when dems do the same. The vitriol kicks up a notch every few years as social media becomes every more ubiquitous.
"DINO" just doesn't have the same sort of pizzazz though.
DINO is objectively cooler.
So... here are some examples of what I am talking about. You're saying this has always been this way, for decades (assuming), and the only reason we are aware of it is... social media gives us more access to the information?
Leave the democrats? You're a russian catspaw, regardless of your service.
Stray from the party lines on foreign wars? Get your house burned down.
Come from the single most connected family to the democrats in America, leave the party to fight for health of kids? Years of character assassinations.
Align yourself with the right after being celebrated by the entire left wing? Become the target of nationwide domestic terror attacks.
And of course... if you're a democrat that was loved by the entire gelatinous blob that is the democrat/media machine for decades, leave the party and then run for President as a republican- you're literally Hitler and they'll try to blow your head off on CNN live TV.
And the right will... uh, make some memes and get real mad on podcasts, I guess?
The last R-D switch of any consequence in the last 20 years was Charlie Crist in Florida, where he eventually got smoked by DeSantis and left politics. There was barely a ripple on the right. So how is this "always been this way"?
The whole "RINO" thing isn't really even a thing on the right anymore. Not in any serious way, anyway. Yes, I know dorks still use it yes it's a term blah blah blah. It doesn't have the sting on the right anymore and anytime I see someone use it, I connect them to the boomer/doomer dork part of the party.
The larger messaging that the party wants you to take on is a "wide tent MAGA movement" that will live on after Trump. That's the party line, exactly the opposite of calling everyone you don't like a RINO establishment shill. It's passe.
Tangentally related to the discussion. Fram it however you'd like- the left and right are light years apart in how they deal with issues internally.
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