The Trump Presidency 2.0
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ThunderHorse
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Some of you don't like In N Out...but how bad of a look is the Newsom press secretary showing?
It seems like the report concluded that Russia didn’t directly change votes through cyber attacks, rather than saying their hack-and-leak operation didn’t affect the election.
I don’t remember anyone claiming that Russia directly manipulated vote totals. I’m sure *someone* did, but the central argument behind the ‘Russian interference’ narrative is about the GRU’s hack-and-leak campaign.
Can we start here- how much do you actually know about Fusion GPS, HRCs campaign, and the Russia Gate hoax? Have you read any of the multitude of books or reports that show a complicit FBI, NSA, and CIA on the Obama approved and HRC propagated Steele dossier?
The report *did* conclude what you’re saying; that’s not the point. The point is- the Obama admin *knew this and approved the illegal FISA warrants to spy on a US president anyway*. They invented the crime, then looked for the person they already knew hey wanted to target.
To your second paragraph- do you remember people claiming for four years that Trump was a Russian Catspaw and worked directly with Russia to steal the election? You’re creating an argument here no one is arguing; but if you want, I can show you the MILLION VIDEOS OF EVERY DEMOCRAT CALLING TRUMP AN ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENT BECAUSE RUSSIA HELPED HIM WIN THE ELECTION.
Let me speed to the end of this one- unless we change tack here, we are going to get into a very weird position where you’re gonna defend the biggest political scandal of our lifetimes.
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Not bad at all. Maybe I just don't understand your view on this?
-> GOP offical says the whole company is leaving
-> Press Sec. highlights that the company is staying, the heiress is moving.
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Why is Lynsi leaving California?
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Once again, Newsom is certainly attempting to save his own face. Lynsi Snyder has been outspoken about the way CA is governed, but he isn't addressing why she is moving out of California, only that In N Out isnt leaving. Which is true.
Her stated reason is so she can oversee the development of their new eastern HQ as well as their expansion into states other than TN.
The podcast this all came from she made a comment about "raising a family in CA is hard". I'd be more inclined to believe that if she was a normal person, but she's a billionaire. You hit a certain budget and you kind of have unlimited ability to raise your kids how you want.
Another thing not directly said, but covered through the podcast, is she's a pretty involved Evangelist. I think its fair to say she'll find a better cultural/ministerial fit in Franklin.
Like most things, probably various percentages of all three are involved in her decision.
Overall point still stands that her moving does not equal "Newscum chased In-n-Out away".
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In the recent past she has also made clear that she's not happy with Newsom's actions during Covid, his handling of the Homeless, and having to close stores because of crime. And that she doesn't want to raise her kids in California. Newsom's not wrong but conveniently leaves those parts out.
Sitting President. Makes up intel. To subvert the will of the American people.
That’s the story. That’s the only story.
That’s the story. That’s the only story.
ThunderHorse
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She is moving the HQ to Tennessee because the cost of doing business in California is high, and we're not talking about taxes.
The issue however with with all these states that create policies to attract businesses is those businesses bring voters that change the fabric of those states. Voters that vote for policies that made their previous states complete hell holes.
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I’d call it the housing equity effect if it were me. People can take the equity out of their homes and retire early, move to a lower cost area and imbue their California values into those new areas.
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That's a good point. It's happening all over Mexico, just with white Americans buying or renting out things that Mexicans could afford pre-pandemic but no longer can. To the point where there are protests have been occurring off and on for a few years: 'Gringo go home.' Mexico City protests target Americans, gentrification
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Many in my family have done it. Moving to Washington and Idaho. Others wish they could but they have jobs and salaries in California that are just completely out of line for their respective fields. Hard to go from a cop making 200+k to making 55. Even with a lower cost of living.
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She's clearly stated that she doesn't want to raise her family in California. Financial is a big part of it all, but let's not sugar coat it and make it the only reason. She can pay the bills. Values are not aligned. As I understand it the HQ will remain in CA? I've listened to many podcasts with her, she's not happy in California.
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4 of the largest dots do not have a state income tax and AZ is the lowest of those that do (like OR and CO). People are moving to where they aren't taxed to the moon and back. 3 of those states are adjacent to CA so people are moving but remaining close to family and friends. You know this being in AZ and all, but it is rocket surgery for others.
And the lady moving to TN...another state w/o a state income tax. Double-edged sword though because employers will pay a little less in some areas as a result. In FL it doesn't help too that a lot of revenue is driven by tourism.
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That's my point. It's not about the taxes. Obviously Tennessee are also giving In N Out tax incentives to move corporate HQ as well.
Being close to my parents in case something crazy happens is very helpful. Something Texas certainly did not provide.
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Gotcha
It seems like the main corporate HQ is going to stay in CA, while they build up a regional HQ in TN. You'll likely see it flip-flop in the next 5-10 years where the corporate HQ is in TN and it becomes a regional one in CA.
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I can see that happening if she is still as hands-on as she is now and if she stays in Tennessee.
It'll be interesting to see the effect this has on In N Out. I like the food, but I think part of the appeal for people in the eastern states is the fact that you want something you can't have. It's sure to be fun for awhile.
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