The Trump Presidency 2.0

How's that going to work without violating the sovereignty of other nations? President/ Prime Minister of the target nation signs off on a raid or drone strike?

I'm sure the service JAGs worked it out.
Clearly there are no legal gray areas troops could be caught in. /s
 
How's that going to work without violating the sovereignty of other nations? President/ Prime Minister of the target nation signs off on a raid or drone strike?

I like the idea, but the execution is a bit concerning.
Mexican cops and troops have violated our sovereignty multiple times.
Fuck them.
They can also get targeted during trips outside of Mexico.
Families are acceptable collateral IMO.
 
So Trump is going to do some federal policing in DC? We feeel good about this federal government reach into local matters, when he is also threatening to do it in other major cities? Military patrolling in a major city? Everyone thinks this will go well right?
 
So Trump is going to do some federal policing in DC? We feeel good about this federal government reach into local matters, when he is also threatening to do it in other major cities? Military patrolling in a major city? Everyone thinks this will go well right?
You know damn well title 10 can't police.
Compare the murder rate in DC to other Capitols. We should be ashamed.
 
So Trump is going to do some federal policing in DC? We feeel good about this federal government reach into local matters, when he is also threatening to do it in other major cities? Military patrolling in a major city? Everyone thinks this will go well right?
Of course we do.

Exceptions are always permitted when the political theorist in question is directing it towards entire "crime emergency" districts they concurrently are forcing the thousands of federal employees and contractors en masse that they care about to transit to, through, and from.
 
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So Trump is going to do some federal policing in DC? We feeel good about this federal government reach into local matters, when he is also threatening to do it in other major cities? Military patrolling in a major city? Everyone thinks this will go well right?
Doesn't NYC already use the NYNG to patrol their streets and mostly the train stations? What makes that any lesser evil than when a President does it in cities we no longer feel safe in?

One standard. ONE! Either we are all in against the mil use fed or state controlled, or we are hypocrites. Pick one, you cannot have it both ways.
 
The mere presence alone of Guardsmen patrolling the streets, "walking a beat", will deter crime. "They can't arrest people." So? They don't need to, they're sentinels, information gatherers, overhead ISR if that's allowed in the capital. Run up JLENS here and there...presence and information.

Dudes aren't running and gunning with a SAW or chucking flashbangs. Sheesh.
 
The mere presence alone of Guardsmen patrolling the streets, "walking a beat", will deter crime. "They can't arrest people." So? They don't need to, they're sentinels, information gatherers, overhead ISR if that's allowed in the capital. Run up JLENS here and there...presence and information.

Dudes aren't running and gunning with a SAW or chucking flashbangs. Sheesh.

Information gathering for... "Force Protection" of course, not an intelligence activity because that would be illegal and force protection is an operations activity.
 
Doesn't NYC already use the NYNG to patrol their streets and mostly the train stations? What makes that any lesser evil than when a President does it in cities we no longer feel safe in?

One standard. ONE! Either we are all in against the mil use fed or state controlled, or we are hypocrites. Pick one, you cannot have it both ways.
That's a really good point. But it's OK when blue cities do it, not OK for Orange Man Bad.
 
Doesn't NYC already use the NYNG to patrol their streets and mostly the train stations? What makes that any lesser evil than when a President does it in cities we no longer feel safe in?

One standard. ONE! Either we are all in against the mil use fed or state controlled, or we are hypocrites. Pick one, you cannot have it both ways.

I mean I am fine with a state or city requesting it. I’m not ok with the federal government doing it. DC is different, as it is a federal district.There is nuance to everything.
 
Information gathering for... "Force Protection" of course, not an intelligence activity because that would be illegal and force protection is an operations activity.

My bad. I forgot about the strength of the 4th Amendment and current protections it affords. Also, my apologies for not playing the word salad denial game and calling it all as it is, not how it is supposed to be. Whoops.
 
Information gathering for... "Force Protection" of course, not an intelligence activity because that would be illegal and force protection is an operations activity.

The answer to that is, "it depends." There is a whole lot of ambiguity and exceptions as to what the military can do regarding collecting/sharing intelligence in DoD 5240.
 
My bad. I forgot about the strength of the 4th Amendment and current protections it affords. Also, my apologies for not playing the word salad denial game and calling it all as it is, not how it is supposed to be. Whoops.

Kind of an odd tone. I was only re-enforcing what you were saying with a bit of the legal caveat that will get people in trouble if they don't realize it. Was more for the conversation, not to correct you.
 
I mean I am fine with a state or city requesting it. I’m not ok with the federal government doing it. DC is different, as it is a federal district.There is nuance to everything.
So after JAN 6th you were okay with it too? I don't condone what those retards had done but the aftermath was severely heavy handed and something actual tyrants do. It was without any doubt a bad precedent for bad things to be seen as.

One standard. ONE. And only ONE. We don't get to choose.
 
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