pardus
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No shit! I couldn't even finish watching the cow.
Trayvon Martin Case
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No shit! I couldn't even finish watching the cow.
Meanwhile, in Florida...AKA "not far from where my mail goes"...
Not 2 minutes from where I live:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/ge...-in-shooting-in-lake-mary-police-say/32943940
LAKE MARY, Fla. -
George Zimmerman was involved in a shooting Monday in Lake Mary, police said.
The shooting took place on Lake Mary Boulevard near Rinehart Road, east of Interstate 4.
It's not known what prompted the shooting, but Lake Mary police said two vehicles were involved
Not 2 minutes from where I live:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/ge...-in-shooting-in-lake-mary-police-say/32943940
LAKE MARY, Fla. -
George Zimmerman was involved in a shooting Monday in Lake Mary, police said.
The shooting took place on Lake Mary Boulevard near Rinehart Road, east of Interstate 4.
It's not known what prompted the shooting, but Lake Mary police said two vehicles were involved
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This dude is going to kill more Americans than Ebola...
policemedic
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Color me surprised....NOT.
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A friend of mine used to live in a neighborhood adjacent to him.. I'm glad I live over in South Tampa..
HOLLiS
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The media screwed Zimmerman so many ways this side of Sunday. He should just change his name to Target. He may not be the sharpest pencil in the box, but as Pardus stated, "He is a magnet for trouble." The cost of the wrong kind of fame.
PTSD/TBI related issues?
He needs professional help, and soon.
He needs professional help, and soon.
For being shot at?
Reed
For living in Florida.
HOLLiS
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I agree with you, but he needs much more than that. Sadly what the media done to him can not be fixed. He is tagged as a racist vigilante who murdered in cold blood that cute 10 year old kid in a football jersey, not some person who was trying to keep his brains from being bashed out by some thug.
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The media played their role certainly, but Zimmerman screwed himself but putting himself into the situation. He is reaping what he has sown. The shoot was justified in the context of self defense, but he created the exigent circumstances that lead to the use of force. He thinks he knows more than what he does and will eventually bite off more than he can chew.
HOLLiS
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IF you read my post, I mentioned he was not the sharpest pencil in the box. BTW, I agree with you. What happened was when two idiots collided. On top of that we have the media. Remember MSMBC altering the 911 tapes to make Zimmerman look even worse.
The whole altercation could have been easily avoided. If we throw blame around, IMHO, both Zimmerman and Martin has their fair share of blame. I would still place the onus on the media not for what happened, but how it is perceived.
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That is true to an extent, but the media has never and probably will never be relied upon to be impartial as originally intended. Zimmerman took advantage of a flaw in the law where he created his own exigent circumstances. Had he not done that the media would have found something else to sniff. I place a large portion of the blame on him because it is his responsibility as a concealed carrying citizen to be responsible with the right that was granted to him. He wanted to play billy badass and ended up almost losing his head.
The media and Martin bear their own blame of course.
HOLLiS
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Ke4gde. I would argue that politically they wanted to hang Zimmerman and if they could have found a way, they would have. The court's opinion was based on law, so he walked. I agree with you that he could have easily have avoided the confrontation and so could have Martin. Also The key aspect of the defense was that Martin attacked Zimmerman as he walked back to his truck and was bashing his head against the concrete. At that point, Zimmerman's response was justified. Zimmerman was walking back to his truck because he lost contract with Martin. I am not interested in revisiting all of the aspects of this case, but it is on the internet. I do not think the court's opinion was wrong.
Also Zimmerman was also part of the neighborhood watch, IIRC.
IIRC, Zimmerman's defense was not based on "Stand your Ground". Martin was on top of Zimmerman bashing his head against the concrete. If Martin would have killed Zimmerman, Martin would have been charged and probably found guilty of murder. No tricks of the law, a simple self defense situation.
Also Zimmerman was also part of the neighborhood watch, IIRC.
IIRC, Zimmerman's defense was not based on "Stand your Ground". Martin was on top of Zimmerman bashing his head against the concrete. If Martin would have killed Zimmerman, Martin would have been charged and probably found guilty of murder. No tricks of the law, a simple self defense situation.
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For having his head beat into the concrete.
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The court made their decision based on the evidence provided by the state. The state made the error as this was not a clear cut case of defense if taken beyond the context of the physical encounter (which the state tried to do). He created the exigent circumstances that required deadly force. That is the issue that the state chose to ignore and instead (just like the Casey Anthony case) go for the easy sexy charge that could not be proven. Being part of the neighborhood watch is irrelevant as it confers no authority to him. Again, I never questioned the justification for using deadly force, I questioned the events leading up to it where he created the circumstances necessary for it.
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...for having shitty marksmanship and no BJJ ground skills.
