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The Quartermaster
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Can the gun grabbers at least try to have a discussion that doesn't use not even one logical fallacy at all even? They cannot be this obtuse naturally, it has to be deliberate.
Devildoc
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No, they cannot. They cannot argue the merits (or lack) on the facts.
Kraut783
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ATF brace Update
Federal Judge Blocks Nationwide Enforcement of Pistol-Brace Ban
“[T]he Court is certainly sympathetic to ATF’s concerns over public safety in the wake of tragic mass shootings. The Rule ’embodies salutary policy goals meant to protect vulnerable people in our society,'” Judge Kacsmaryk wrote in Britto v. ATF. “But public safety concerns must be addressed in ways that are lawful. This Rule is not.”
Federal Judge Blocks Nationwide Enforcement of Pistol-Brace Ban.
Federal Judge Blocks Nationwide Enforcement of Pistol-Brace Ban
“[T]he Court is certainly sympathetic to ATF’s concerns over public safety in the wake of tragic mass shootings. The Rule ’embodies salutary policy goals meant to protect vulnerable people in our society,'” Judge Kacsmaryk wrote in Britto v. ATF. “But public safety concerns must be addressed in ways that are lawful. This Rule is not.”
Federal Judge Blocks Nationwide Enforcement of Pistol-Brace Ban.
Well, it's a piece of plastic and velcro, so.....
BTW, since the fuck when does a law enforcement agency make proposed laws, especially, unconstitutional and illegitimate ones.
ThunderHorse
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Agencies have the power to make administrative regulations that act like laws. They can then charge you with catch all crimes. Most of the time this is really an IRS, DOE, or FDA type thing. FBI is not really one that creates administrative regulations like the BATFE does...but I would say the BATFE is more like the IRS than the FBI.
Ah, I'd venture to say that this is abused power.
ThunderHorse
Verified Military
I would say federal law allows this to occur, would require significant change to the US Code. But the only way to get these rescinded is millions of dollars in lawyers...
Kraut783
SOF Support
Regardless, it's a step in the right direction.
Topkick
Verified Military
The Glock switch has been in the news a lot recently. Yeah, it's making the news because criminals are using it. I'm pretty much against any gun laws other than one...Criminals shouldn't be allowed to have guns or the cool shit responsible Americans should be allowed to own. I personally have 0 use for a glock switch. Most of us here know controlled fire is more effective, but if a law abiding citizen wants one..I also have no problem with it.
Suspect involved in Dallas officer shooting was using a "Glock switch"
Suspect involved in Dallas officer shooting was using a "Glock switch"
Wait, criminals are using something illegal to break other laws? But, but...gun bans work!
What's funny is you can make a Glock switch using a 3D printer and instructions for turning AR and AK platforms fully automatic have been in the wild for years. The gun control crowd clutching their pearls is wildly out-of-touch with reality. Point this out to a gun control nut and they stutter before falling back on the same old weak arguments.
The 29k that did apparently register the weapons, fuck them, tory collaborators.
Devildoc
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If I had guns I would certainly register them if that was the law. Good thing that I do not have guns, and I do not live in a state which requires registration.
I have guns, I don't live in a state that requires it..... yet.
If they did, I would not.
Topkick
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I used to manage a local shooting range. So many "gun guys" who came in to shoot would say "I'll never give up my guns" or "from my cold dead hands." Bullshit. I've always said that MOST people will gladly hand over their guns when things get the slightest bit uncomfortable. I hope I'm wrong and if the day comes, those who fuck around, also find out.
Devildoc
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No one should have guns. If they did, they should be registered. Or turned in. Or have magazine limits. Or no pistol braces.
It's a good thing I don't have any. I would definitely sell them at the first buy-back I could.
Devildoc
Verified Military
What's funny is the ones who talk the most smack are the ones wearing Crye and with the short barrels, suppressors or the Gucci guns. The guys with the S&W MP Sport with 10,000 rounds and the Remmy 770, they usually don't say squat.
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