What about Latin America and the Cartels?

I hope we finally got some brains working down there. Same with the cover story of a ruse to bring him to look at investment property. Hope it was some other BS like, hey we're just bringing you to some other city in Mexico, private jet, few drinks, not looking out the windows, land at some strip. Next thing you know the hit team is boarding the plane in NM.
El Paso is in Texas.

Local news says they flew in to surrender.

We'll never know.
 
The article said they landed at a NM airport close to El Paso.
LRU (Las Cruces Int’l) is only a 50-60 mile drive from El Paso depending on where in town you set out from. The two cities sit very close to each other. Not as close as El Paso and Ciudad Juarez, but close enough. Even if he flew to a private airfield nearby, it isn’t a great distance away from Texas at all.
 
LRU (Las Cruces Int’l) is only a 50-60 mile drive from El Paso depending on where in town you set out from. The two cities sit very close to each other. Not as close as El Paso and Ciudad Juarez, but close enough. Even if he flew to a private airfield nearby, it isn’t a great distance away from Texas at all.
I guess you could. LRU is like 60% National Guard aircraft ops and the rest are private civilian ops with their cessnas and beechcrafts. But El Paso International also is a general aviation airport as well. LRU is the only other "close" air strip unless you want to go to Alamogordo which is even further.

The fact that he boarded a plane makes this even weirder, the Cartels have plenty of operations in El Paso, mostly where they come to play, their second or third wife and their kids etc.

But hey we don't enforce the border laws anywhere so I still can't believe he came over on a plane!

El Paso is in Texas.

Local news says they flew in to surrender.

We'll never know.
El Paso, Illinois seeks justice.
 
If they didn't know ahead of time, makes one wonder if they thought they were going to meet some "US handlers".

Before anyone calls me crazy, the cartels were used by our intel organizations to generate cash to "combat the Soviets" in Central and South America. Last dude to inadvertently stumble onto this was a DEA cat named Kiki Camarena.

“The CIA helped kill DEA agent Enrique ‘Kiki’ Camarena,” say witnesses
 
If they didn't know ahead of time, makes one wonder if they thought they were going to meet some "US handlers".

Before anyone calls me crazy, the cartels were used by our intel organizations to generate cash to "combat the Soviets" in Central and South America. Last dude to inadvertently stumble onto this was a DEA cat named Kiki Camarena.

“The CIA helped kill DEA agent Enrique ‘Kiki’ Camarena,” say witnesses

Not to mention the CIA's role in importing cocaine then murdering the reporter who broke the story.

Or Barry Seal who helped traffic arms for cocaine as an informant for the DEA with the CIA's knowledge while concurrently building a town to support his organization's money laundering. (Mena, AR) Barry was the guy who recorded Escobar loading coke onto his aircraft in Nicaragua.
 
Not to mention the CIA's role in importing cocaine then murdering the reporter who broke the story.

Or Barry Seal who helped traffic arms for cocaine as an informant for the DEA with the CIA's knowledge while concurrently building a town to support his organization's money laundering. (Mena, AR) Barry was the guy who recorded Escobar loading coke onto his aircraft in Nicaragua.
Seriously, I wonder how much garbage we have to deal with because the CIA and other intel agencies are addicted to easy money. We make jokes about the poppy fields in Afghanistan, but I wonder how far down the organized crime hierarchy our intel orgs operate at.

Latin America is a cesspit continually hindered by organized crime, with waste overflowing into the US. Between the drugs and human trafficking, I wonder if the chaos down there helps the intel dweebs in DC push anti-American policy.
 
Seriously, I wonder how much garbage we have to deal with because the CIA and other intel agencies are addicted to easy money. We make jokes about the poppy fields in Afghanistan, but I wonder how far down the organized crime hierarchy our intel orgs operate at.

The CIA has acted on behalf of business going back to the 50's, the 40's even with the OSS to a degree. Anyway, our '53 coup in Iran was to help the UK and their petroleum interests. Fast forward to '56 I think and they helped with a coup in Guatemala, ostensibly to counter Communist expansion, but really for the United Fruit Company (Chiquita today, I think). Cuba? In bed with the mafia. I'm sure none of the latter had anything to do with Kennedy...

Southeast Asia, too easy.

In the 80's we have cocaine.

But why? Greed and arrogance. No doubt some skim is occurring at home and abroad. I think another reason is simple "extra funds to keep doing illegal shit." Illegal programs and whatever, you can fund those if the money doesn't exist. "No" money, no oversight, and you can fund running guns and coke off the books...or on the books, but partially paid for by your slush fund. Need 2 million, but you can only have 1.7? No problem.

I really think it is that simple: greed and funding illegal activity (I include bribes and payouts here).
 
The CIA has acted on behalf of business going back to the 50's, the 40's even with the OSS to a degree. Anyway, our '53 coup in Iran was to help the UK and their petroleum interests. Fast forward to '56 I think and they helped with a coup in Guatemala, ostensibly to counter Communist expansion, but really for the United Fruit Company (Chiquita today, I think). Cuba? In bed with the mafia. I'm sure none of the latter had anything to do with Kennedy...

Southeast Asia, too easy.

In the 80's we have cocaine.

But why? Greed and arrogance. No doubt some skim is occurring at home and abroad. I think another reason is simple "extra funds to keep doing illegal shit." Illegal programs and whatever, you can fund those if the money doesn't exist. "No" money, no oversight, and you can fund running guns and coke off the books...or on the books, but partially paid for by your slush fund. Need 2 million, but you can only have 1.7? No problem.

I really think it is that simple: greed and funding illegal activity (I include bribes and payouts here).
Really loved the final season of Jack Ryan. Sure nothing like that would ever happen, though. Almost as unrealistic as Land of the Dead...
 
That’s a lot of guys to smuggle coke when you typically hear about 2-3 being arrested when a boat or sub are seized.

With border crackdowns those folks will also need a way to smuggle people into our country, but until someone shows me video of kids on the boat? Meh. Until someone shows me we’re using the same loose targeting standards enjoyed in the ME over two decades? Meh.
 
That’s a lot of guys to smuggle coke when you typically hear about 2-3 being arrested when a boat or sub are seized.

With border crackdowns those folks will also need a way to smuggle people into our country, but until someone shows me video of kids on the boat? Meh. Until someone shows me we’re using the same loose targeting standards enjoyed in the ME over two decades? Meh.
I want to second this "meh". If the intel folks need reps on developing target sets and the drone pilots need to keep their hands warm AND there just so happen to be cartel dudes with packs of coke acting nefariously in the open ocean?
 
Right or wrong, its only a matter of....hours...before Maduro gets wise and these fast boats full of....(insert inert substance)...and a family of 12 ( also aid workers) enjoying their Jet 2 holiday on the open ocean.

I hope we get all of them, but I'd rather wacky leftists not have a reason to "resist" and hamd them the next round of elections.
 
Right or wrong, its only a matter of....hours...before Maduro gets wise and these fast boats full of....(insert inert substance)...and a family of 12 ( also aid workers) enjoying their Jet 2 holiday on the open ocean.

I hope we get all of them, but I'd rather wacky leftists not have a reason to "resist" and hamd them the next round of elections.
This is 7d underwater chess.

Maduro is going to bait America into bombing a boat filled with a large family that he purposely made to look like drug runners to make America look bad on the world stage.

What if I told you (follow me here)... America is already the bad guy and he doesn't need to do the above wacky hypothetical, and the left will act like we did anyway, because they hate America?
 
This is 7d underwater chess.

Maduro is going to bait America into bombing a boat filled with a large family that he purposely made to look like drug runners to make America look bad on the world stage.

What if I told you (follow me here)... America is already the bad guy and he doesn't need to do the above wacky hypothetical, and the left will act like we did anyway, because they hate America?

Ok. Then what's the over/under on how long before a boat full of nuns gets hit?

I'll take the under.
 
Ok. Then what's the over/under on how long before a boat full of nuns gets hit?

I'll take the under.

Kill them all, God will know his own.

Seriously though, my only concern is that we’re doing a much better job at PID’ing our targets unlike AFPAK from about 06-07. Overall we botched that strategy, but I’m still a “meh” until we prove we’re as incompetent as we were for well over a decade; I don’t have any faith in our ability to learn, but I think we should let this play out.

Where this is funny to me is Venezuela’s posturing about using drones to combat the US, but with drones that can’t strike the US. They made a statement and then a week or so later “surprise, motherfuckers” happens to a to a cartel boat in response. Once again, China and Iran use a proxy against the US and once again the proxy suffers losses.

I’ll wait to see where this goes. I won’t cheer, I won’t boo, our track record sucks, but I’ll wait.
 
I’ll wait to see where this goes. I won’t cheer, I won’t boo, our track record sucks, but I’ll wait.

Also waiting to see where this goes, and I will, in fact, cheer for it. Venezuela is like a born again Cuba and I'd love to see their comeuppance. Pesky little nuisance.
 
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