Why is CA considered SOF?

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I know when I joined, which admittedly was back when Full House was still on prime time,

I love this

 

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I’m don’t believe SBU sailors were considered SOF back then either.

When it was a Special Boat Unit (SBU) it wasn’t a “closed rate”. Meaning that other rates like Quatermaster, Engineman, Corpsman would come to the SBU, go through a pipeline to be a part of the unit, and then possibly/probably be sent away to another after they did their time.

Whether or not they “fell under SOCOM” is actually a mystery to me, and I’ll inquire when I go back to work on Monday. I do know that they were created specifically to be the mobility and Maritime platform for SOCOM however.

 

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Sorry for kind of hijacking this thread. Could you explain what the difference between PsyOp and CA is? Also are SF commonly still integrated within those units and why?

 

[Teufel]

Sort of true and sort of not true? While PJs have assignments in AFSOC and in support of SOCOM directly in those assignments, Personnel Recovery is a direct tenet of SOF (under ‘direct action’). All those assignments should be considered ‘SOF’ assignments as well, even though it’s not for AFSOC.

For instance- the last two Silver Star winners (Brunetto and Fisher) were both PJs assigned to SOF mission sets working at rescue units (38/58, respectively).

Assignment between conventional and SOCOM units then. You get my point. Personnel recovery isn’t a SOF mission when the 81mm mortar platoon does it from a MEU. I like that model and argued, unsuccessfully, that the Marine Corps should have done the same thing with the MSOBs and recon battalions when they built MARSOC.

 

[amlove21]

Assignment between conventional and SOCOM units then. You get my point. Personnel recovery isn’t a SOF mission when the 81mm mortar platoon does it from a MEU. I like that model and argued, unsuccessfully, that the Marine Corps should have done the same thing with the MSOBs and recon battalions when they built MARSOC.

Yikes. Yeah, I was tracking your point, sir.