Your 2024 Presidential Election Thread

[Locksteady]

A couple of things, mainly addressing @ThunderHorse's questions:

Firstly as @Cookie_ indirectly noted, @AWP posted two links that weren't comparing the same data. When you correct for that dataset for President-elect Trump (Candidate Committee only), you'll find that his highest donors also came from "the DoD" and various alphabet soup groups.

Secondly,

Through CFC though, right? Because when you write an individual check it wouldn't come up as DoD, it would come up at Cookie.

Per the pages @AWP posted, it would come up as the organization, as those individuals' checks were then recategorized based on the individuals' listed employers. It also specifies in bolded red that the money came from everything but the organizations themselves, to include individual members, employees, owners, and individuals' immediate families:


I agree with @Gunz and others that the way the data is organized is intuitively misleading.

 

[RackMaster]

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[AWP]

Firstly as @Cookie_ indirectly noted, @AWP posted two links that weren't comparing the same data.

I'm wrong? You are clearly a racist and I know this because I watch the news and stuff. I am NOT wrong, YOU are wrong.

In all honesty, I thought it was odd so many governmental organizations were represented and frankly had no clue how that could happen. The CFC comment was a shot in the dark, so thank you to those who clarified.

Even if you are...Nazis? Racists? Whatever you are to doubt me.

 

[Steve1839]

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To be truly representative, this board should have on it several specialists/lance corporals, a RIFed captain or two, and maybe one or two general officers...especially those who've been passed over for command in the last four years...

 

[ThunderHorse]

A couple of things, mainly addressing @ThunderHorse's questions:

Firstly as @Cookie_ indirectly noted, @AWP posted two links that weren't comparing the same data. When you correct for that dataset for President-elect Trump (Candidate Committee only), you'll find that his highest donors also came from "the DoD" and various alphabet soup groups.

Secondly,

Per the pages @AWP posted, it would come up as the organization, as those individuals' checks were then recategorized based on the individuals' listed employers. It also specifies in bolded red that the money came from everything but the organizations themselves, to include individual members, employees, owners, and individuals' immediate families:

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I agree with @Gunz and others that the way the data is organized is intuitively misleading.

Trying to see how if I donated $300 via a check/credit card and it would come out as my employer being the entity that donated. Just seems bass ackwards.

 

[The Quartermaster]

To be truly representative, this board should have on it several specialists/lance corporals, a RIFed captain or two, and maybe one or two general officers...especially those who've been passed over for command in the last four years...

COL Hackworth would have been perfect for this.

RIP, Sir.

 

[Kraut783]

So, Pete Hegseth named Secretary of Defense. I have no idea who he is....

Edit: Pete Hegseth - Wikipedia

 

[The Quartermaster]

So, Pete Hegseth named Secretary of Defense. I have no idea who he is....

Edit: Pete Hegseth - Wikipedia

Alright this begs the question, he's currently a Major in the MN NG and there are rules for this sort of thing when being selected for that job last I knew, active and reserve or NG.

And Tim Walz is his current commander in chief, dis gonna be good!

 

[AWP]

So, Pete Hegseth named Secretary of Defense. I have no idea who he is....

Edit: Pete Hegseth - Wikipedia

Interesting background, I'm curious to see where this goes. Genuinely, like Walz, I want to see some of his soldiers come forward with their observations of his time downrange.

 

[AWP]

Alright this begs the question, he's currently a Major in the MN NG and there are rules for this sort of thing when being selected for that job last I knew, active and reserve or NG.

My Guard time is removed by almost 25 years (Holy shit...), but Guard and Reserve rules are different. In the 90's there was a break point between Guard and high far one could progress in the Fed. government. There are Guard and Reserve General Officers at the GS/ SES level, but SecDef is unprecedented to my knowledge.

 

[Topkick]

Interesting background, I'm curious to see where this goes. Genuinely, like Walz, I want to see some of his soldiers come forward with their observations of his time downrange.

I joined 3-187th Inf at the end of 2004 and do not remember him or hearing anything about him. That's not necessarily a bad thing. It's possible we never crossed paths because all the batts were transitioning to RSTA which also involved redesignation.

 

[Marauder06]

So, Pete Hegseth named Secretary of Defense. I have no idea who he is....

Edit: Pete Hegseth - Wikipedia

Why does that name sounds familiar? Do I know that guy? Did we serve together downrange?

<reads Wikipedia bio>

On June 14, 2015, Hegseth accidentally hit a West Point drummer with an axe while filming a live TV segment in honor of Flag Day.

OMG I totally remember when this happened. I wrote about it on the site!

Thread 'A Fox News Reporter, a West Point Band Member, and an Axe Walk Into a Bar'

Jun 23, 2015

Maybe He Was Axeing For It? Fox News Reporter Hits West Point Band Member With Flying Axe


The headline says it all...

http://www.havokjournal.com/nation/...-hits-west-point-band-member-with-flying-axe/

• Marauder06
• Replies: 7
• Forum: General Discussion

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Local law firm to represent West Point drummer hit with axe during 'Fox & Friends'

I know the guy who got hit with the axe, he and his family went to our church. Good guy. I didn't know him well so I never brought up the axe thing with him. I will say though that if it had happened to me, though you wouldn't be able to shut me up about it.. I'd be drinking off that story for the rest of my natural life. "Yeah, that's cool and all, but did you stop a flying fucking AXE... with your own BODY??? No? Then STFU and bring me another beer."

To be clear, and the video shows, yes he got hit with the axe. I'm sure it hurt like a mother. But it didn't stick in him.

To me the most awesome part of the video, and a joke I think I also made on the site in later years, is the way that his buddies just kept right on playing after it happened, like 33% casualties is a normal thing at a West Point Hellcats performance.

 

[Cookie_]

Looks like Hesgeth is in the IRR, so that may further change the specifics of the rules.

That said, I'm actually suprised Trump didn't pick Mike Waltz, as I don't think you'd find many politicians with as strong of a background. He's is a decidedly Red district, so the R's wouldn't lose a seat.
Wonder if the fact that he's still serving as a COL in the Guard would prevent it?

 

[Topkick]

Looks like Hesgeth is in the IRR, so that may further change the specifics of the rules.

That said, I'm actually suprised Trump didn't pick Mike Waltz, as I don't think you'd find many politicians with as strong of a background. He's is a decidedly Red district, so the R's wouldn't lose a seat.
Wonder if the fact that he's still serving as a COL in the Guard would prevent it?

Waltz will be the NSA, correct?

 

[AWP]

Waltz will be the NSA, correct?

That's what multiple sources are reporting.

 

[AWP]

Why does that name sounds familiar? Do I know that guy? Did we serve together downrange?

<reads Wikipedia bio>



OMG I totally remember when this happened. I wrote about it on the site!

Thread 'A Fox News Reporter, a West Point Band Member, and an Axe Walk Into a Bar'

Jun 23, 2015

Maybe He Was Axeing For It? Fox News Reporter Hits West Point Band Member With Flying Axe


The headline says it all...

http://www.havokjournal.com/nation/...-hits-west-point-band-member-with-flying-axe/

• Marauder06
• Replies: 7
• Forum: General Discussion

• 

Local law firm to represent West Point drummer hit with axe during 'Fox & Friends'

I know the guy who got hit with the axe, he and his family went to our church. Good guy. I didn't know him well so I never brought up the axe thing with him. I will say though that if it had happened to me, though you wouldn't be able to shut me up about it.. I'd be drinking off that story for the rest of my natural life. "Yeah, that's cool and all, but did you stop a flying fucking AXE... with your own BODY???"

To be clear, and the video shows, yes he got hit with the axe. I'm sure it hurt like a mother. But it didn't stick in him.

To me the most awesome part of the video, and a joke I think I also made on the side in later years, is the way that his buddies just kept right on playing after it happened, like 33% casualties is a normal thing at a West Point Hellcats performance.

"Did you go to Ranger School?"
"No."
"Why not?"
"I took a fucking ax and lived. Where's that tab?"
(Promote ahead of peers)

 

[compforce]

So, Pete Hegseth named Secretary of Defense. I have no idea who he is....

Edit: Pete Hegseth - Wikipedia

He's a regular guest on Gutfeld! You can hear a lot of his opinions unfiltered on the show.

 

[Topkick]

With at least Waltz and Stefanik leaving congress, it's a lot closer in the house unless these seats are filled with R's. Interesting to see what happens here.

 

[Cookie_]

Waltz will be the NSA, correct?

Somehow missed this was announced! Apparently he also retired from the Army recently, so no weirdness regarding his position.

 

[Marauder06]

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I don't think this is necessary, or a good idea. A lot of very senior generals will see the writing on the wall and get out on their own without the drama of being pushed out. And there are plenty of discreet ways to find out who the woke generals are; most of have them have been happy to crow about it for the last four years.