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I'm talking about Matt/Mark. He was fired from ST6. That said, everyone we have consulted with had a very high opinion of him as a SEAL.
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Should he have not returned to his original Team after 6 ? or did they not want him either?
In his book he decides to leave to focus on his personal life and recounts a meeting with the DEVGRU commander:
"What can we do to keep you?"
"It's time for me to move on," I said. He then says he was tired and ready for something new.
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I don't mean to intrude on his life, or be a nuisance but he was PNG'd because of his desire to go elsewhere - or rather move on? Am I right? And if so, your theory (which I believe and it makes a lot of sense) would be true. That being, the guy felt betrayed by his own unit, he wasn't on good terms with them and someone offered him a ton of money to tell his story.
Is it that common within Tier 1 units for guys to be PNG'd for simply wanting to move on?
Every one gets "bored" or "tired" of doing the same old job after a while, even in such "high speed" jobs such as a SEAL. Some times you just have to move on but that doesn't mean that you sell your story, including secrets to the highest bidder.
I have no idea what happened in the unit, or under what conditions the author left ST6 or the Navy, but I do know that "I decided to move on" always sounds better than "I got fired."
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Full disclosure: I was once fired from a job I held in the Army. Shit happens. I moved on and was moved over to a leadership position in a Rifle platoon in my Ranger Battalion. No use feeling sorry for yourself, I think it was the best thing that ever happened to me. My point is that those of us who did the job long enough have some shit in our past that we are not so proud of. I wish Matt was a little more candid about it but what can you do. The fact is, Matt was given a plane ticket home to Virginia while Six was out on a training exercise and basically told to kick rocks, your kit bag is out in the hall. This may very well have led to some antagonism between Matt and his unit.
I found this comment interesting: "Ask your CAG friends about the highest profile Op they’ve done lately… and you’ll hear the crickets chirping loudly."
Imagine if we lived in a world where your CAG (or DevGru) friends didn't tell you what they've done lately. A multi-cell structure *within* the community can be a good thing. KITDFOHS. It is being done, but apparently not in the DOD side of the house. Maybe it's easy to ask your friends. Maybe DOD is chosen for high profile Ops for high profile reasons.
I love crickets. It' when they stop chirping . . ..
Anyway, I'm losing interest in this drama and can only say I hope lessons are learned. :-/
Imagine if we lived in a world where your CAG (or DevGru) friends didn't tell you what they've done lately. A multi-cell structure *within* the community can be a good thing. KITDFOHS. It is being done, but apparently not in the DOD side of the house. Maybe it's easy to ask your friends. Maybe DOD is chosen for high profile Ops for high profile reasons.
I love crickets. It' when they stop chirping . . ..
Anyway, I'm losing interest in this drama and can only say I hope lessons are learned. :-/
The difference is, some people (like you) man up and take their lumps and end up the better for it, while others get a self-entitled chip on their shoulder.
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Haha! I got a chip on my shoulder, I just don't feel entitled! I'm also not interested in dragging my boys through the mud just because I feel like writing a book for cold hard cash.
This story keeps "improving..."
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/07/16018/?hpt=hp_t3
At this rate, we're going to have to add the book to the recommended fiction thread.
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/07/16018/?hpt=hp_t3
At this rate, we're going to have to add the book to the recommended fiction thread.
I am guessing he didn't really explain how that came about... I was in IZ working under NSW and there was some RUMINT going around.
Jack has the author of the email been vetted? Sounds like something a "fan" would write. Either way it is always funny to hear from someone who doesn't think their shit don't stink.
Sounds like the DoD is coming up with reasons not to prosecute. "Well, we would prosecute, but you know, the story isn't true anyway."
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He was one of Brandon's students when he was an instructor as the SEAL's sniper course. In regards to "No Easy Day"...contrary to what the media is reporting, the book does not deviate from the script in any significant way. Yes, there is a different perspective from the official story because Matt was there on a tactical level but the main thrust of the White House/Pentagon/CIA narrative is upheld by this book. The only disputes are rather superficial when it comes down to it, who was doing what in which room at what time sort of stuff. The full story is still a long ways off from being revealed.
So does that mean its a case of Stolen Valor?
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They won't prosecute because if Matt wrote a real "tell all" just about non-class stuff he knows about his former unit it would be an absolute disaster. If they really come after him, especially with jail time, then blackmail is going to be a simple reality in this equation.
I just picked it up. The green team bit was interesting. I'm getting a bit tired of the war stories though. I'm about positive my buddy got pulled to be the RTO for their troop in IZ based off the dates and locations. I'd have to get a hold of him and ask.
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He definitely violated NDA's that he signed, but it seems that the only way you can hurt someone with an NDA is if you curl it into a cone and poke them in the eye with it. NDA's are not stopping anyone from doing anything. Based on the excerpts I've heard on this forum out of the book, he definitely wrote about some things that I think should have been held back, but what is and is not OPSEC is something that the appropriate authorities will have to determine.
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That being said I just got the book today, and only recently started to pick up. Granted first thing I did was through the pics. There are two sets. One of what I'll call just simple cool guy shots, HAHO jumps, weapons, etc.
The other section
Is a whole set of diagrams detailing the raid to the letter.
People,the approches, etc. all that stuff.
Practically every action is broken down systematically.
IMHO I don;t think something like this should be included and I haven't even started the real reading yet.
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