Bin Laden Raid Book: First-Hand Account Of Navy SEAL Mission Will Be Released On Sept. 11

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Freefalling said:
Pretty much.

Oh, two awesome parts I forgot to mention:

He describes how the team members were selected. I vaguely recall lines like "DEVGRU had men available" or something to that effect in the media after the raid. "Available" can also mean, if the book is to be believed, that they were recalling guys from leave, "Get your ass down here" type pages and that the ones choses to go were all senior guys from DEVGRU. They even picked up a guy in Afghanistan who had never done any of the pre-mission prep. They briefed him in Jalalabad, basically "You're our Arabic speaker. Welcome to the team." Apparently, CAG was flat busted with no one around to kill the most wanted man on the planet...

What was even MORE awesome than that was "the mulch guy." The author was having some mulch put in at his house and the mulch guy asked if he was with the Teams. Yup. "Figures, you look like one." Then he asked if the author knew "Jay" which the author did because that was his Squadron commander. The mulch guy goes on to say, "Yeah, he's been real busy in DC for a few weeks." The author didn't know anything about it and wondered how the mulch guy knew his boss was in DC for several weeks while guys were on leave.

The whole segment was odd.
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the mulch guy thing really makes no sense.
Like so he just looks at him and goes, oh you must be Team guy? strange.
 
KBar666 said:
the mulch guy thing really makes no sense.
Like so he just looks at him and goes, oh you must be Team guy? strange.
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I think his point was "How does this guy know more about what's going on than me?" but maybe he was being vague...for the "brotherhood" and everything. According to the book, several of the Team guys used this dude for yardwork or whatever and he knew all of their comings and goings. Beyond that dialogue, the author hasn't mentioned it again.

And he was dumb enough to believe a pseudonym would hide his identity when the local unvetted mulch guy knows his schedule and most of his Team?

I keep shaking my head as I read the book.
 
Wow. I don't mean any disrespect to anyone at all.

But if I may say, using the same mulch guy, apparently quite often seems rather stupid for just that reason.

But than again, it is probally one of those overlooked things. What I mean is, I doubt everyone sits around at a table and divies up who they use and for what. "nope sorry hes already my mulch man. Sorry this plumber is taken. That cable is being used by bob" lol
 
KBar666 said:
Wow. I don't mean any disrespect to anyone at all.

But if I may say, using the same mulch guy, apparently quite often seems rather stupid for just that reason.

But than again, it is probally one of those overlooked things. What I mean is, I doubt everyone sits around at a table and divies up who they use and for what. "nope sorry hes already my mulch man. Sorry this plumber is taken. That cable is being used by bob" lol
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You never ask a friend to recommend a reputable buisnessman/woman? Hey, I need some mulch dropped on my trees; use this guy, he's reliable. The guy is wrong if he didn't go to a security manager and pass the conversation on to him/her.
 
SOWT said:
You never ask a friend to recommend a reputable buisnessman/woman? Hey, I need some mulch dropped on my trees; use this guy, he's reliable. The guy is wrong if he didn't go to a security manager and pass the conversation on to him/her.
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True.

Guess I was overthinking the whole thing. LOL
 
OK ... I was kinda thinking the author of this email is Mr. "Owen" himself. Your thoughts?

http://sofrep.com/11055/jack-murphy-lands-on-seal-team-sixs-target-deck/

E-mail received from an active duty SEAL Team Six operator:
I will admit right up front that I am biased, having spent more time at DevGru than Jack Murphy spent in the military. That said I do take exception to your article “Next Time Send Delta or the Rangers”. I find it humorous that you choose to comment on it at all, never having been at a Tier 1 unit.

First I will give credit where credit is due. Delta is one of two (the other being DevGru) of the most hard core and prolific group of warriors ever assembled in the history of warfare. And Rangers are the premier Light Infantry unit in the world.

That said, let’s break things down to a digestible level. Ask your CAG friends about the highest profile Op they’ve done lately… and you’ll hear the crickets chirping loudly. It’s not because they are not talking about it, but because they are not being chosen to do them. And don’t even try and use the excuse that it was only because McRaven was running the show. There have been some other Ops (post Bin Laden) that were way more technical than the Bin Laden op and it was an Army General that chose our Navy element to do it.

The real answer is… It was, and still is, OUR time. Period.

As for the Rangers, and this goes for any battalion in the regiment, no General or President in his right mind would send in Rangers to do that job. Why? Because your previous unit’s average age is 21 with a dauntingly high turnover rate. And your most elite unit still has brand new “meats” that spent 9 weeks in Basic and 2 weeks in R.I.P. and get sent over with the 75th (also not a Tier 1 unit).

Riding on a helo with or being a blocking force for a Tier 1 unit does not make you a Tier 1 unit. Period.

My estimate of your analysis is that you know just enough to stir the pot, but still don’t know enough to comment. Do not hold a unit accountable for one of their own that got out and decided to write a book. It can happen to any of us (Dalton Fury/”NAME REMOVED”).

Shift fire…

Is anyone asking the bigger question as to why you’re selling an e-book to make money off of another book whose author is donating all profits to charity? That makes you the equivalent to a Remora…you know, the small nuisance fish that swim along side the shark for protection and scraps! That is pretty weak and it’s also your new nickname.

And it’s pretty clear to me that you and your site are all a part of the same clown show.
Respectfully,

[Name withheld]
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To: Name withheld
From: Brandon Webb (SOC, Class 215)
Re: Hypocrisy & The Mirror

I happen to like Matt but also know that money was a motivating factor, and while Matt will surely keep his word and donate profits to charity, his seven figure plus advance is likely in his bank account. His new friends at Penguin are the best money can buy, their loyalty is not to him but only to his story that surely will make them tens of millions. I hope he sees the forest for the trees.

Why did SOFREP do an e-book? We planned to do e-books/World Reports when we launched our membership last month. The next big topic in the news we planned on covering and writing up via an e-book. Turns out it was one of your own that made the news.

SOFREP will blog, publish e-books and sell membership, and make money. It’s what for-profit business enterprises do. SOFREP is not a hobby or a charity foundation. No Easy Day is a high profile book that has stirred up a lot of drama and has a lot of people confused over why the military would be so upset over a Patriot writing a book. If you took the time to read our e-book you’d see it sheds a lot of light on the situation and isn’t a hit piece on Biss. And yes, it will make money and headlines right alongside Penguin and your squadron mate’s book. Welcome to America and Capitalism.

SOFREP is a coalition of former U.S. Special Operations personnel. The editors do their best to represent their community in a positive light to the overall public. We didn’t create the current headlines or break OPSEC, or dime him out to FOX. Headlines came and we do what we’ve always done, provide some much needed interpretation of current events (in this case No Easy Day) as most twenty-something journalists with no life experiences cannot.

The Remora comment is cute but it would serve you best to look in the mirror and reflect on the word hypocrisy, its definition and view the video below, 1:02 if you want to skip right to the “Official SEAL Team Six Operator” tell all part with TTP’s all over the place.

Hypocrisy: a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religiousbeliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess.

Officially endorsed projects like “Act of Valor”, BUDS 234, SOCOM Navy SEALs, and active (not former) Dev guys working with Hollywood video game production companies like EA has become ops normal. It’s also created a consumer market demand where a former teammate can get out and sign a seven figure book deal. Just ask Biss and the LT. featured in Act of Valor (although I think his forthcoming book sold for 850k).

The timing of the book No Easy Day has caused an end to what you call “Our time. Period”. Senior commanders including the POTUS will put the whole community in the penalty box for this. It’s game over for now and time for everyone in the active and former SEAL community (myself included) to look in the mirror and make better decisions regarding community identity.

Say hi to Turbo for me, he’s a good fucker.
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Read more here...
 
TheSiatonist said:
OK ... I was kinda thinking the author of this email is Mr. "Owen" himself. Your thoughts?

http://sofrep.com/11055/jack-murphy-lands-on-SEAL-team-sixs-target-deck/



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I don't think it is "Owen". Webb says he knows the author personally and calls him by his real first name in the response" I happen to like Matt..." he says, so no. My thoughts are its not him, as that would mean hes (Webb) talking about him in the third person/as if hes not the one reading it.
 
KBar666 said:
I don't think it is "Owen". Webb says he knows the author personally and calls him by his real first name in the response" I happen to like Matt..." he says, so no. My thoughts are its not him, as that would mean hes (Webb) talking about him in the third person/as if hes not the one reading it.
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No, it isn't Matt.
 
Clueless and immature in my opinion, but I decided to let his e-mail to me speak for itself.
 
Finished the book. I found some points hilarious, particularly in light of this thread and the media blitz around everything SEAL-related:

"It is imperative that we stay out of the media," Jay said. "Let's all make sure we're keeping a low profile." I was astonished. We'd kept this whole thing under wraps for weeks. Now, Washington was leaking everything, and we were going to get the lecture for it. It felt like it was only a matter of time before some of our names appeared on the news. We just killed the number one terrorist in the world. The last thing we needed was our names attached to it. We simply wanted to fade back into the shadows and go back to work.
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Not long after, he totally justifies the book and we should get off his back.

Since May 1, 2011, everyone from President Obama to Admiral McRaven has given interviews about the operation. If my commander in chief is willing to talk, then I feel comfortable doing the same.
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So there you have it, copied verbatim from the book. I think any further thoughts I have on this topic are so negative that I don't wish to put them out there. I will say that this whole affair, everything surrounding the raid and SEALs in the media is an abortion, an out-of-control, no-end-in-sight abortion. The only good news in any of this is that UBL is dead.
 
Guys, I actually finished the book - and keep in mind, I'm just another hopeful I have no affiliation whatsoever (and that's why I'm asking this) Was the Author, Mark or Matt whichever you prefer, considered to be a respected Operator within the community before this went down?

Jack, from the way Brandon talked about him - it seemed that the author is actually a pretty nice guy and was a good operator, is there any truth to this?
 
Yes, he was a respected member of ST6 prior to publishing this book although he has something of a fall from grace that led to them letting him go.
 
JackMurphyRGR said:
a fall from grace that led to them letting him go.
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PNG'ed or leaving the unit? I only ask because the book's version of him leaving the unit and Navy is vastly different than the above

EDIT: Or are my wires crossed between "Owen" and the email author in the article above?
 
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