I never said the White House was in any way culpable, I just said it was going to happen.
Bin Laden Raid Book: First-Hand Account Of Navy SEAL Mission Will Be Released On Sept. 11
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Is it bad that I'm not suprised?
I must have inferred it incorrectly.
No, reading back through my post it was an easy inferrence to make, especially in light of some of my earlier posts on related topics. I should have been clearer. I do indeed think that the White House will leak details of the Bin Laden raid, like the video of the burial at sea... but now they may not have to. I have no reason to believe that this particular book was a put-up job by the White House.
This is the worst part of all this shit. It's become basically expected to either have these books coming out, or to see "said a US official/officer/attache/etc who was not authorized to discuss what he told us". People are just numb to it now.
Brill
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Mark Owen is a pseudonym for Obama, the author of the book, and proceeds will go towards his reelection.
I think the point about the burial at sea is a good one and not one I had thought of.
I would do it if I were the President. It would feed the interests of Americans, would be a good distractor for all of the other things that are going on, and shows the Democratic Party as strong on security, which is something they traditionally get hammered on. I'm not certain, but I think that the Prez is actually the ultimate declassification authority, so if he wants to release something publicly (or direct it to be released) he can.
I'll just leave this here...
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The most interesting dichotomy is the one of dudes bitching about how no one but other vets can understand, and then guys publishing books to tell all their cool stories to the people that don't understand so they can get an ego/bank account/sex life boost.
So the guy was a team leader, 10 years service. Just ETSd.
Scotth
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I still don't understand what the WhiteHouse did that compromised national security? The killing of OBL was going public regardless of what the WhiteHouse did. There was helicopter wreckage in the compound, the idea that you could keep the raid secret is ridiculous.
I also find the idea that the "leaking" of the events in the raid is something new is just as ridiculous. From Desert One the public knew just as much about that failed event as we do about the raid on Osama. The same could be said about every other major conflict from Greanda, Panama, Desert Storm, Somolia etc we knew about Delta the Dev group etc.
I also find the idea that the "leaking" of the events in the raid is something new is just as ridiculous. From Desert One the public knew just as much about that failed event as we do about the raid on Osama. The same could be said about every other major conflict from Greanda, Panama, Desert Storm, Somolia etc we knew about Delta the Dev group etc.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...insider-account-idd-could-face-legal-trouble/
The author of a recently announced insider account of the raid that killed Usama bin Laden has been identified to Fox News as a 36-year-old former Navy SEAL Team 6 member from Alaska who also played a role in the high-profile rescue of an American captain kidnapped by Somali pirates.
The book, "No Easy Day: The Firsthand Account of the Mission That Killed Osama Bin Laden," is set to hit shelves on Sept 11. It is penned under the pseudonym "Mark Owen," according to the publisher, but multiple sources told Fox News his name is in fact Matt Bissonnette, 36, of Wrangell, Alaska.
Bissonnette could be exposing himself to legal trouble, as the Pentagon has not vetted the account.
The tell-all book also has apparently upset a large population of former and current SEAL members who worry about releasing information that could compromise future missions. One Navy SEAL told Fox News, "How do we tell our guys to stay quiet when this guy won't?" Other SEALs are expressing anger, with some going so far as to call him a "traitor."
According to a press release from his publisher, Penguin Group, "Owen (Bissonnette) was one of the first men through the door on the third floor of the terrorist leader's hideout and was present at his death."
In the book, Bissonnette writes "it is time to set the record straight about one of the most important missions in U.S. military history."
An experienced member of the elite Navy SEAL special operators, Bissonnette also participated in the highly publicized rescue of Captain Richard Phillips in the Indian Ocean in 2009. That mission involved a daring rescue that ended when SEAL snipers shot and killed three Somali pirates with direct shots to the head.
Bissonnette received the rank of chief before he retired.
The book is co-authored with Kevin Maurer, author of four books, many of which were based on Special Operations.
Along with using the pseudonym "Mark Owen," Bissonette protected his fellow SEAL Team 6 members by changing their names in the book.
Both the Pentagon and CIA said Wednesday that the book was not in any way vetted by either department to prevent unwanted classified information from being released. When asked about the book, officials in both departments said they were unaware of the SEAL's true identity, but described co-author Kevin Maurer as a well-respected journalist.
Lt. Cmdr. Chris Servello, a Navy spokesman, said it's possible Bissonnette or any former service member could be punished for revealing national security secrets. "Any service member who discloses classified or sensitive information could be subject to prosecution -- this doesn't end when you leave the service," Servello said. "There is nothing unique to the special warfare community in this regard."
Meanwhile, the Pentagon said that because the author is a retired service member, any potential criminal prosecution would be handled by the Department of Justice.
A spokesman at Dutton, a division of Penguin Group, said proceeds from the book will be donated to charitable causes that benefit the families of fallen Navy SEALs.
Much attention has been given to the issue of security leaks in the ongoing presidential race. Supporters of Mitt Romney accuse President Obama of intentionally leaking operational details surrounding the bin Laden raid for political gain.
OPSEC, a group of retired military and intelligence officers, came under fire this week from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey, who told Fox News on Tuesday he was "disappointed" by the group's political use of the military uniform in a recent anti-Obama advertisement. Dempsey said he feels those who serve ought to remain "apolitical."
OPSEC fired back, arguing that Dempsey's criticisms can be applied equally to the Obama campaign's "One Chance" ad, which featured images of Blackhawk helicopters in flight and military pilots. The video suggests Romney would not have made the same decision to call for the raid that killed Usama bin Laden.
Film producer Kathryn Bigelow received help from the White House when she produced "Zero Dark Thirty," a highly anticipated film detailing the bin Laden raid that was originally set to be released before the November election but was pushed to a later date after Republicans cried foul.
This just got a whole lot interesting.
The author of a recently announced insider account of the raid that killed Usama bin Laden has been identified to Fox News as a 36-year-old former Navy SEAL Team 6 member from Alaska who also played a role in the high-profile rescue of an American captain kidnapped by Somali pirates.
The book, "No Easy Day: The Firsthand Account of the Mission That Killed Osama Bin Laden," is set to hit shelves on Sept 11. It is penned under the pseudonym "Mark Owen," according to the publisher, but multiple sources told Fox News his name is in fact Matt Bissonnette, 36, of Wrangell, Alaska.
Bissonnette could be exposing himself to legal trouble, as the Pentagon has not vetted the account.
The tell-all book also has apparently upset a large population of former and current SEAL members who worry about releasing information that could compromise future missions. One Navy SEAL told Fox News, "How do we tell our guys to stay quiet when this guy won't?" Other SEALs are expressing anger, with some going so far as to call him a "traitor."
According to a press release from his publisher, Penguin Group, "Owen (Bissonnette) was one of the first men through the door on the third floor of the terrorist leader's hideout and was present at his death."
In the book, Bissonnette writes "it is time to set the record straight about one of the most important missions in U.S. military history."
An experienced member of the elite Navy SEAL special operators, Bissonnette also participated in the highly publicized rescue of Captain Richard Phillips in the Indian Ocean in 2009. That mission involved a daring rescue that ended when SEAL snipers shot and killed three Somali pirates with direct shots to the head.
Bissonnette received the rank of chief before he retired.
The book is co-authored with Kevin Maurer, author of four books, many of which were based on Special Operations.
Along with using the pseudonym "Mark Owen," Bissonette protected his fellow SEAL Team 6 members by changing their names in the book.
Both the Pentagon and CIA said Wednesday that the book was not in any way vetted by either department to prevent unwanted classified information from being released. When asked about the book, officials in both departments said they were unaware of the SEAL's true identity, but described co-author Kevin Maurer as a well-respected journalist.
Lt. Cmdr. Chris Servello, a Navy spokesman, said it's possible Bissonnette or any former service member could be punished for revealing national security secrets. "Any service member who discloses classified or sensitive information could be subject to prosecution -- this doesn't end when you leave the service," Servello said. "There is nothing unique to the special warfare community in this regard."
Meanwhile, the Pentagon said that because the author is a retired service member, any potential criminal prosecution would be handled by the Department of Justice.
A spokesman at Dutton, a division of Penguin Group, said proceeds from the book will be donated to charitable causes that benefit the families of fallen Navy SEALs.
Much attention has been given to the issue of security leaks in the ongoing presidential race. Supporters of Mitt Romney accuse President Obama of intentionally leaking operational details surrounding the bin Laden raid for political gain.
OPSEC, a group of retired military and intelligence officers, came under fire this week from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey, who told Fox News on Tuesday he was "disappointed" by the group's political use of the military uniform in a recent anti-Obama advertisement. Dempsey said he feels those who serve ought to remain "apolitical."
OPSEC fired back, arguing that Dempsey's criticisms can be applied equally to the Obama campaign's "One Chance" ad, which featured images of Blackhawk helicopters in flight and military pilots. The video suggests Romney would not have made the same decision to call for the raid that killed Usama bin Laden.
Film producer Kathryn Bigelow received help from the White House when she produced "Zero Dark Thirty," a highly anticipated film detailing the bin Laden raid that was originally set to be released before the November election but was pushed to a later date after Republicans cried foul.
This just got a whole lot interesting.
I think he did. He learned that fame and fortune will be his if he sells out, because there are no consequences for this type of betrayal. Ever. Well, other than getting PNG'd from the unit, but that doesn't really seem to be a concern for any of these types of people. "Hm, the Army guys are all doing it, and nothing ever happens to them, and my story is a MUCH better moneymaker."
policemedic
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I agree the story was going to come out and the USG was going to take credit. But the announcement should have come later, after we'd had a chance to exploit the intel. Most importantly, "SEAL Team Six" should have been replaced by "agents of the United States Government". I know the term agent is controversial, but it is applicable in this circumstance. No one needed to know DEVGRU had done it. The list of likely units isn't long, but let the enemy figure it out. Why immediately put them on the trail of every member of DEVGRU and their families?
True. But does that mean that because one guy did a stupid thing, someone else gets carte blanche for doing it?
My thoughts, too, when Marcinko's book first came out.
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