Case Study #2: The Loyal Wife

I say hit him now. Act like you know everything, but be very general without much detail, and use open ended questions. Let him do the explaining -- in his shock about being confronted, he may give up information that we didn't know about yet. If not, then we're no worse for it -- his chain of command already knows the type of person he is, and we get the benefit of the doubt and time to produce evidence.

We all know how RUMINT works -- chances are he'll catch wind before the next meeting, and have the opportunity to conduct any damage control he can. We already know what the documents/ e-mails, etc contain anyway -- no need to bring those out in an initial confrontation.

-R3
 
Once again I must apologize for not making the plot line clear. I should probably ask my wife to edit and proofread these for me before I post them.

To make things clear: in CPT Cho's office right now are Jody's company commander (CPT Cho), Cho's first sergeant (First Sergeant Jones), your first sergeant, and you. Whenever you see "First Sergeant," we're talking about your first sergeant. When you see "first sergeant," we're talking about a position instead of a proper noun- there are many "first sergeants," but only one "First Sergeant." Just like there are many "moms" in the world, but only one "Mom." Sorry about the confusion.

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“Let’s do it now, first sergeant,” you say, turning towards Jones. “But first, can you give us a little background on this guy?”

“Yeah, kind of typical troublemaking Joe, young, first enlistment, kind of a shithouse lawyer if you know what I mean," Jones says. "Gets in trouble a lot, mild insubordination, shows up late for work on occasion, generally it’s not something that we can really slam him for. At least not until I met you two. He was the company armorer for a while, but he wasn’t up to the job.” Jones pauses, “His platoon sergeant is really fed up with this guy. Let me get him on the phone.” Jones calls Schum’s platoon sergeant, SFC Back, and tells him to come down to the office. “I have some people here you’re going to want to meet,” he says.

Jones continues, “He’s been hanging out with this girl Brenda- I guess Mrs. Bradley; she’s kind of skanky but a real looker.”

“Ex-stripper,” says First Sergeant.

“Figures,” says Jones. “I wondered what a girl that good looking was doing with a guy like Schum. Guy’s got no money, no personality, he didn’t even have a car before he met Brenda. I kidded him once that she must be messed up in the head to be hanging out with him. Guess I was right,” Jones said, referring to Mrs. Bradley’s brain tumor. "He said they met because they were neighbors in the same apartment complex. Now he’s driving around in some sporty little white Corolla that he says Brenda gave him.”

“Yeah, that’s SGT Bradley’s car,” says First Sergeant, “at least it was before Bradley got killed in Iraq.”

“This is a messed up situation,” sighs Jones. “Brenda has been coming to all of our family support group meetings for about the last five months, she and Schum were talking about getting married because Brenda’s pregnant,” he adds.

“He knocked her up?” First Sergeant asked shaking his head. “Wow, you can’t make stuff like this up.”

There’s a knock on the door and two new people walk into the room. From their uniforms, you discern that they are SFC Back and SSG Red, who Cho introduces to you as Schum’s platoon sergeant and squad leader, respectively. Jones quickly brings them both up to speed on what has happened with regards to Schum.

“Yeah, dumbass kid was thinking with his little head instead of his big head, thinks he was in love or something,” Back says after the introductions, “She taught him a lesson though; she DX’d that shitbrick the moment her insurance check came in. Got herself a new car, some new tits, and a new boyfriend.”

“So they’re not together anymore,” you ask, “ I thought she was pregnant with his kid?”

“Yeah, Schum used to brag about how he was hittin’ it, he mentioned she was pregnant and that they were going to get married. This was like, three months ago. I saw her in the PX a couple of days ago though, and from what she was wearing, if she was knocked up I don’t think she is anymore,” Back replies. “She also said that she wanted her car back.”

“Well, why don’t you get him in here and after we’re done chatting with him, I’m sure we can find a way to get Mrs. Bradley her car back,” you say.

“That sounds like a good idea,” says CPT Cho. "Sergeant Back, bring him in."

Next post: the confrontation.
 
As soon as the First Sgt and all take care of Jody, the other wives in the FSG should take care of "Brenda". That will save the military members from getting in trouble. ;)

Women have ways of being sneaky and vindictive. :D
 
You, Sir, are the epitome of evil. I hear the devil’s looking for a temp next summer....the dental plan’s great.
 
Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do to Brenda because adultery and being a stupid bitch aren't illegal outside of the military.

I'm sure Jody's going to get what's coming to him, I just wonder how...:D
 
Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do to Brenda because adultery and being a stupid bitch aren't illegal outside of the military.

No, they aren't, sir. But if the FSG there is like the one I was a board member in, the wives have ways of "taking care of their own". ;)
 
No, they aren't, sir. But if the FSG there is like the one I was a board member in, the wives have ways of "taking care of their own". ;)

and if it's like the last one I was a part of, she's fitting right in.
 
and if it's like the last one I was a part of, she's fitting right in.

I guess I was lucky....but, my ex is in the chAir Force/Air National Guard...their longest deployment is *maybe* three months. It's insane to not be able to survive that -- since he came there from the Marines where it was standard for him to be on a WestPac 6 months out of every 2 years, the 3 month deal was a cake walk and I made sure the wives knew that.

Perhaps had it been a unit where there were the longer deployments I might have experienced what you did.
 
To hijack this even further I can't tell you the number of AF types that whined about their 120 day deployments. When I pointed out their Army brethren were doing 12-15 months I got the "They should have been smart enough to join the AF." line. Those doing the whining were typically the young E-5 to E-3 types that I came in contact with, but I'm amazed at those that don't realize how good they have it and take that for granted.
 
To hijack this even further I can't tell you the number of AF types that whined about their 120 day deployments. When I pointed out their Army brethren were doing 12-15 months I got the "They should have been smart enough to join the AF." line. Those doing the whining were typically the young E-5 to E-3 types that I came in contact with, but I'm amazed at those that don't realize how good they have it and take that for granted.

48% of our deployments are six months or longer, those whiners should be happy they are doing"AF" support vice Conventional Army or Joint.

I find it interesting that everyone bithches about our 120 day tours, but ignores the SOF rotation in/out of theater, six months is a better deal then 15.

But to address the thread.

I don't know KY ot TN law, but the Grandparents would have been able to sue for a portion of the SGLI in TX. How much they got would have depended on when the kids were born, and were the kids hers, his or both.

I am willing to bet her original plan was to dump the kids (successful) divorce the Sgt (in-progress) and marry another soldier (keep her I.D. card). She dumped the PFC when hubby died because she now gets to keep her I.D. card.
 
48% of our deployments are six months or longer, those whiners should be happy they are doing"AF" support vice Conventional Army or Joint.

I find it interesting that everyone bithches about our 120 day tours, but ignores the SOF rotation in/out of theater, six months is a better deal then 15.

My beef is not the length of the deployments but the attitude of those on the deployments. The TACPs/ AFSOC guys I was around didn't complain, but the airmen doing conventional AF stuff howled. I guess it boils down to a mindset, rather than the length of time you are gone.

Also, Guard and Reserve guys may only do 30, 60, or 90 days depending on their orders, volunteers rates for the deployment, etc. Some even complained about that, but again they were conventional dudes rather than the TACP/ AFSOC crowd.

Personally, I think the Marines and the SOF guys are doing it "right" with the 6 or so months deployed, vice conventional Army's 12+ months and the AF's 4 months. I saw some serious turnover problems with the 4 months guys, especially in the Comm world that I worked with day-to-day.
 
To hijack this even further I can't tell you the number of AF types that whined about their 120 day deployments. When I pointed out their Army brethren were doing 12-15 months I got the "They should have been smart enough to join the AF." line. Those doing the whining were typically the young E-5 to E-3 types that I came in contact with, but I'm amazed at those that don't realize how good they have it and take that for granted.

My ex-husband whines ALL the time about how many times he's been deployed since 9/11. I just shake my head and say, "all of your deployments together don't total what you would have been deployed had you still be in the Marines so STFU!" (I don't literally tell him to STFU...I just sigh...I wish, but I don't want to diss his service, he IS serving)

Let's outline his deployments:

March '02 sent to Kuwait for 3 months.
2004 sent to Qatar for 2 months
2006 sent to Baghdad for 8 weeks
He just returned from 30 days of hard time in Polland and is whining because he has to leave again at the end of October for another 60 days in Polland. :rolleyes:

Ok, Mara, please continue with the story...lol...otherwise this thread is going to spiral into a "bitch fest" about chAirforce deployments. ;)
 
but the airmen doing conventional AF stuff howled.

You mean like sitting in a munnitions bunker far away from the front line making the "packages" that are delivered from F-16's for 8 weeks at a time isn't a hard deployment??? ;) Someone please tell my ex that...it's a vacation, not a deployment! LOL

All kidding aside, I do appreciate his service, but considering the time some of his old buddies have done from the Marines, he needs to quit bitching.
 
My sister sent me pics from Qatar. That place doesn't even count.

no the fuck it doesn't. any place where the gov puts you up in a 5-star hotel for "barracks" isn't a "deployment", it's a vacation. fuckin' navy guys there got it made in the shade.
 
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