Charlie Kirk shooting -

[amlove21]

Shit, I work with people that could probably spoof a message string like that from their home computer.

You 100% do.

I am tracking all the different blends of conspiracy on this one, and honestly, they're all garbage. Either I want better psyops or I want better conspiracy theories. But the point is, I voted for a more transparent and professional FBI. I voted to end this sort of thing- speaking specifically about political rhetoric and one side going without real consequence while they rode roughshod over half the country, legislating and formalizing their version of a value system on America. I have given this admin wide berth and all the grace a rational human could.

I want full transparency. I want the investigation, the outcomes, the entire process to be executed to the best of the FBI's considerable budget. I shouldn't be able to ask questions- where are the 4k cameras behind Charlie? Where is that footage? How about the autopsy? Will that be public (I think the autopsy is a huge nothing, but it provides transparency to eliminate wacky theories). All of it.

I have given you a lot of slack, Kash (rumors that Dan Bongino is not long for the job, I have a theory on that for somewhere else). You better perform. And you better be able to answer without a shadow of a doubt why you fired Mehtab Syed weeks before the shooting, cause right now that's unclear and she seemed to have a pretty good history.

 

[AWP]

So we have the alleged texts between these two and a possible conspiracy involving others. Got it, check, roger. The Fourth Amendment was fired into the sun years ago and basically everything digital in the US is sitting in datacenters somewhere, hoovered up by OGA's.

And we only have one dude in custody? Huh, okay. Just put the team who worked the cybertruck bombing on the case and this will be wrapped up in no time. Easy, peasy.

 

[Box]

The arrest warrants for the coconspirators are currently being held in the same vault as the Epstein files
...but the FBI is working it - director Patel said so

 

[Muppet]

Fucking insane!

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Stewart is going to be unhinged tonight.

Jon Stewart to host 'The Daily Show' in rare mid-week appearance a day after Kimmel suspension

 

[Box]

I stopped watching Stewart about a year before he left the show. I'm afraid I'm going to miss his episode tonight. I might have some algebra homework to catch up on. Maybe some physics. Maybe even some social studies.
...I'd say science homework - but I don't really follow science.

 

[Muppet]

I stopped watching Stewart about a year before he left the show. I'm afraid I'm going to miss his episode tonight. I might have some algebra homework to catch up on. Maybe some physics. Maybe even some social studies.
...I'd say science homework - but I don't really follow science.

Trust the science! Lord Fauci says so!

 

[TLDR20]

You know, for two dudes in the very hip college scene under 25, those text messages were completely clear of all abbreviations and "kid-speak".

Just reading those perfectly worded texts, free of colloquial speechu, I am happy to learn (because they said it perfectly)-

• 22-year-olds still use phrases like "my old man", "squad car", "swept the area"
• Tyler was keenly aware that "some crazy old guy [George Zinn] was arrested and some other guy too", but they had nothing to do with it
• Tyler had to tell his partner (the transgender furry 'roommate') explicitly that his dad was "very MAGA"... because, you know, I will bet that the roomie didn't know that family dynamic and Tyler had to state it explicitly
• The lover/furry/roomie was apparently completely unaware of this action and had to be told it was in fact Tyler. Both dudes were on the same discord, there are more than 20 people that may have advanced knowledge, and "my love" was the last to find out.
• This brilliant 22-year-old with no social footprint was just dumb enough to carry his phone the entire time, text real-time updates and make calls, and have a text conversation that eliminates the possibility of support groups, any other suspects, or any support from another agency. Well, guess we should stop asking questions then, said it clearly.
• The smart 22-year-old used plain language to describe in excruciating detail his crime, as opposed to, you know, laying low and getting home and telling his partner in person.
• And after all this is done, this insanely precise text conversation, the killer decides to confess to his dad and pastor and turn himself in, because we all know if you both delete the text conversation, the FBI can't possibly get it.

Don't get me started on the FBI, the clearing of the crime scene, the autopsy, the bullet path that can't be the bullet path, all of it.

@AWP I don't care what subgroup of folks came up with it, this is the black pill for me, because all of it, because of every single piece of this story.

 

[AWP]

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I'm not shitting on you, but seeing the NYT as a source made me chuckle a bit, so I Googled "The text exchange between Mr. Robinson and his partner" to see what happened. In the first 3-4 pages of results only one conservative social media account cited the quote. Searching Fox, unless it is buried and their search feature sucks, turned up nothing. OANN and Newsmax? Nada.

Then out of curiosity I started digging on the above conservative sites and some of those exchanges are buried or referenced by FBI Director Kash "I'll tell any lie over and over" Patel.

News coverage on this topic is wild, but expected. Liberal outlets are quick to post the text or even the screen grabs while conservative sources downplay or ignore the exchange.

So very bizarre.

 

[Box]

Fucking insane!

It's unfortunate that CHILDREN are indoctrinated to think like this.

Those young ladies didn't think that up on their own. They've heard their "birth givers" saying that shit. (I dare not say mother and father - just the response tells me that they are growing up in a family that isn't politically aligned with the 'mother/father paradigm)

It's like the old rabbit/apple anecdote. Put a child in a room with an apple and a rabbit and the child will eat the apple and play with the rabbit...
...these kids are being raised to eat the rabbit and play with the apple.


Rabbit.
It's what's for dinner.

 

[TLDR20]

I'm not shitting on you, but seeing the NYT as a source made me chuckle a bit, so I Googled "The text exchange between Mr. Robinson and his partner" to see what happened. In the first 3-4 pages of results only one conservative social media account cited the quote. Searching Fox, unless it is buried and their search feature sucks, turned up nothing. OANN and Newsmax? Nada.

Then out of curiosity I started digging on the above conservative sites and some of those exchanges are buried or referenced by FBI Director Kash "I'll tell any lie over and over" Patel.

News coverage on this topic is wild, but expected. Liberal outlets are quick to post the text or even the screen grabs while conservative sources downplay or ignore the exchange.

So very bizarre.

The “trans” reporting on this is from one dude tracking down the roommate and communities they are active on in Reddit. Most of the stuff that is coming out is not verified, not real, or being amplified by AI or foreign actors.

 

[Kraut783]

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This is made out of context and shows how the writer is not knowledgeable in criminal investigations, and is more of an alarmist for social media.

More than likely, the messages were requested in an Emergency request (EDR), due to the possibility of any other shooters out there or other attacks planned. Then followed up with a search warrant to obtain (reproduce) everything received in the EDR for use in legal proceedings.

This is normal in local/State and Federal investigations.

 

[TLDR20]

This is made out of context and shows how the writer is not knowledgeable in criminal investigations, and is more of an alarmist for social media.

More than likely, the messages were requested in an Emergency request (EDR), due to the possibility of any other shooters out there or other attacks planned. Then followed up with a search warrant to obtain (reproduce) everything received in the EDR for use in legal proceedings.

This is normal in local/State and Federal investigations.

Thanks for the context!

 

[AWP]

The “trans” reporting on this is from one dude tracking down the roommate and communities they are active on in Reddit. Most of the stuff that is coming out is not verified, not real, or being amplified by AI or foreign actors.

Yeah, I don't care if they are reporting he's married to a carrot or walked on the moon. I'm pointing out how the two sides are covering this one facet of the case.

 

[amlove21]

The “trans” reporting on this is from one dude tracking down the roommate and communities they are active on in Reddit. Most of the stuff that is coming out is not verified, not real, or being amplified by AI or foreign actors.

Your bolded just described "journalism". Point of clarification, it wasn't "a Reddit board". It was multiple trans-ally and trans-aligned Reddit boards, various Discord servers, and tangential alignment with multiple trans terror cells. Are you confused on the reporting or are you creating a strawman to support your wild accusation that "most of the stuff...is not verified, not real, or being amplified by AI or foreign actors". Do you have any substantial proof of that, or is that your opinon? You can take your normal tack here and either ignore the questions entirely or retreat to "I don't care enough to know all the facts, I am just saying"-ville. Your home.

One guy, following an allegation, then finds supporting documentation that can objectively support the allegation. The killer, who etched anti-fascist and trans furry movement sayings on the bullet casings, was in a romantic, live-in relationship with a mentally ill trans furry. The killer's express purpose was to stop the "hate" of Charlie Kirk toward the trans community.

I am going to apply Hanlon's Razor here and assume you're just not following the story as opposed to you intentionally just tried to gaslight all of us because you're desperately running from the truth of the matter.

I look forward to your non-response.

 

[amlove21]

...pic...

Yeah, called it. If those "real screen grabs" you're seeing around (screenshots of the exact messages) I would post those.

 

[TLDR20]

Your bolded just described "journalism". Point of clarification, it wasn't "a Reddit board". It was multiple trans-ally and trans-aligned Reddit boards, various Discord servers, and tangential alignment with multiple trans terror cells. Are you confused on the reporting or are you creating a strawman to support your wild accusation that "most of the stuff...is not verified, not real, or being amplified by AI or foreign actors". Do you have any substantial proof of that, or is that your opinon? You can take your normal tack here and either ignore the questions entirely or retreat to "I don't care enough to know all the facts, I am just saying"-ville. Your home.

One guy, following an allegation, then finds supporting documentation that can objectively support the allegation. The killer, who etched anti-fascist and trans furry movement sayings on the bullet casings, was in a romantic, live-in relationship with a mentally ill trans furry. The killer's express purpose was to stop the "hate" of Charlie Kirk toward the trans community.

I am going to apply Hanlon's Razor here and assume you're just not following the story as opposed to you intentionally just tried to gaslight all of us because you're desperately running from the truth of the matter.

I look forward to your non-response.

I’ll respond, he found information on the guys Reddit account and video game discords. I wasn’t saying that it is false, just what it was. He then outed that information and it was verified. The other stuff I am seeing is easily verifiably false or purposefully misleading. Until we hear from his mouth or that of his lawyers what the motivations are, all of this is just conjecture. Fake information is being sewn purposefully to make us more divided.

 

[TLDR20]

“Trans terror cells” is a new one… thanks for that.

 

[The Quartermaster]

Has anyone seen the video of the killer's first court appearance yet?

 

[The Quartermaster]

Obama...extreme views weren't in his White House?

What was that line in Apocalypse Now? Accusing someone in Vietnam of murder was like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500?

Irony of his projection, he was the one that started this all. We can all miraculously go to peace with both sides, no more hate (ha, never going to happen but as a hypothesis, hear me out), but that's the one person whom I would say "Eff that, F that rascist F. I am glad that this hateful POS is gone. You fans know how many people were killed because of his hate speeches?" and etc.