Charlie Kirk shooting -

[The Quartermaster]

Great deep dive into the numbers for the "both sides" folks. FTR, if you're a "political violence happens on both sides" type and ignore the scope and scale of the violence, I think you're a fucking retard. If you internalized that, don't bother responding, I don't have conversations with fucking retards.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1968503082322383122

So they lied with the numbers? Or were they posting the left as "Right" and the Right as the "Left" on what appears to be a fake news graph?

 

[The Quartermaster]

Stewart is going to be unhinged tonight.

Jon Stewart to host 'The Daily Show' in rare mid-week appearance a day after Kimmel suspension

Yeah, I don't subject myself to being self triggered by another political hack that the echo chamber full of political hack toxic fandom, treats as the gospels. Let him wait. Someone was murdered in the public, a person whom was murdered bercause he was both smarter and more articulate than them. And to speak in support of it or parting shots "gotchas" and get nailed for it, is rather evil, vindictive, disgusting, and extremely Un American.

 

[amlove21]

“Trans terror cells” is a new one… thanks for that.

Yeah, so when you have an international organization with the express purpose of violence for ideological purposes, we call that a "terror organization". Antifa has fucking merch, tactics, and communications/actions guidance. Antifa is a terror organization.

That terror organization has "cells", or groups of decentralized actors with a centralized mission set and autonomy to act without guidance from the parent organization. They wear the patch- so if you go from Portland to Minnesota to support your "comrades"- you can identify fellow terrorists. These terror cells radicalize impressionable children, typically trans or trans "ally" aligned individuals, and then those individuals commit heinous crimes in the name of the overarching organization, but more importantly, the ideology.

These most violent individuals inhabit a sub-culture the name coined by Andy Ngo- "Transtifa".

So, if you have a terror organization that trains, equips, and directs geographically disparate cells to conduct violent attacks, using a small faction of the most violent people that adhere to a single section of the greater ideology AND that small faction is comprised of a specific individuals, you get...

Trans terror cells.

 

[amlove21]

So they lied with the numbers? Or were they posting the left as "Right" and the Right as the "Left" on what appears to be a fake news graph?

Both. They omitted/absolved murders like the Aaron Danielson murder (that wasn't categorized as 'political violence') while including by special admission, which they highlighted Jan 6. Put plainly, the BLM George Floyd riots, $2.2B in damage, 20 dead, were not classified as political violence because that was social unrest- but not all riots. Charlottesville and Jan 6 were both included, not as social unrest, but as political violence. That's lying with numbers.

They're definitely posting numbers to give you the impression that the right is at least as violent as the left. They're doing this to support the "both sides" argument. That argument- "Both sides do it!" - absolves the left of having to admit that the vast majority in scope and scale comes from the left.

The reason they're doing this is because it upsets the core tenet of the left in America today- the oppressor/oppressed binary.

If you're the oppressed (trans, LGBTQ, climate activist, Palestine supporter, abortion advocate), then no act you commit is morally bad; you were the oppressed, you did what you had to do.

If that narrative is disproven by showing the left are the folks that are doing all the things to the other side, it sort of makes the victim angle hard to support.

 

[The Quartermaster]

Both. They omitted/absolved murders like the Aaron Danielson murder (that wasn't categorized as 'political violence') while including by special admission, which they highlighted Jan 6. Put plainly, the BLM George Floyd riots, $2.2B in damage, 20 dead, were not classified as political violence because that was social unrest- but not all riots. Charlottesville and Jan 6 were both included, not as social unrest, but as political violence. That's lying with numbers.

They're definitely posting numbers to give you the impression that the right is at least as violent as the left. They're doing this to support the "both sides" argument. That argument- "Both sides do it!" - absolves the left of having to admit that the vast majority in scope and scale comes from the left.

The reason they're doing this is because it upsets the core tenet of the left in America today- the oppressor/oppressed binary.

If you're the oppressed (trans, LGBTQ, climate activist, Palestine supporter, abortion advocate), then no act you commit is morally bad; you were the oppressed, you did what you had to do.

If that narrative is disproven by showing the left are the folks that are doing all the things to the other side, it sort of makes the victim angle hard to support.

The fact that people are easily fooled into believing the above is rather alarming. Proof that they don't want to be told the truth, they just want to hear the only truth that they would believe in.

 

[amlove21]

Yeah, so when you have an international organization with the express purpose of violence for ideological purposes, we call that a "terror organization". Antifa has fucking merch, tactics, and communications/actions guidance. Antifa is a terror organization.

That terror organization has "cells", or groups of decentralized actors with a centralized mission set and autonomy to act without guidance from the parent organization. They wear the patch- so if you go from Portland to Minnesota to support your "comrades"- you can identify fellow terrorists. These terror cells radicalize impressionable children, typically trans or trans "ally" aligned individuals, and then those individuals commit heinous crimes in the name of the overarching organization, but more importantly, the ideology.

These most violent individuals inhabit a sub-culture the name coined by Andy Ngo- "Transtifa".

So, if you have a terror organization that trains, equips, and directs geographically disparate cells to conduct violent attacks, using a small faction of the most violent people that adhere to a single section of the greater ideology AND that small faction is comprised of a specific individuals, you get...

Trans terror cells.

Trans terror cells. Relevant. Breaking.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969106294595301635

 

[The Quartermaster]

Oh boy.

 

[Cookie_]

Oh boy.

Milo is a hack, I dont think anybody actually cares about him at all, nor do I think he can have any sort of impact.

The real one to watch is Nick Fuentes, which I think @amlove21 brought up a few pages back.
That dude has gotten veeeeery good with how he presents himself in the past year-ish, so much so that most people don't know how extreme he his.

 

[Florida173]

Trans terror cells. Relevant. Breaking.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969106294595301635

Maybe he/she just needed some gender affirming care to fix the radicalism, or maybe that was a job.. can't remember

 

[Topkick]

Oh boy.

I'm not a big fan of his approach, but he is right about a lot and had a big following. The void caused by offing Charlie Kirk will be filled with people they'll hate even more. Some people who may not have taken Milo seriously in the past, will likely look at him differently now. But, we'll see if people like Milo and Ben Shapiro follow through.

 

[Florida173]

Milo is a hack, I dont think anybody actually cares about him at all, nor do I think he can have any sort of impact.

The real one to watch is Nick Fuentes, which I think @amlove21 brought up a few pages back.
That dude has gotten veeeeery good with how he presents himself in the past year-ish, so much so that most people don't know how extreme he his.

Nick only exists because of Milo

 

[The Quartermaster]

Milo is a hack, I dont think anybody actually cares about him at all, nor do I think he can have any sort of impact.

The real one to watch is Nick Fuentes, which I think @amlove21 brought up a few pages back.
That dude has gotten veeeeery good with how he presents himself in the past year-ish, so much so that most people don't know how extreme he his.

I have no opinion here. I just know that he has in the past made idiots melt and that's okay with me.

 

[The Quartermaster]

I'm not a big fan of his approach, but he is right about a lot and had a big following. The void caused by offing Charlie Kirk will be filled with people they'll hate even more. Some people who may not have taken Milo seriously in the past, will likely look at him differently now. But, we'll see if people like Milo and Ben Shapiro follow through.

Agreed.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

…here we are now, this country of ours…

 

[Kraut783]

Maybe it's just me....but the federal government should never be censoring/canceling any news, show, movie...etc. Unless illegal activity is going on...not because mean words are being said. This includes using influence on media corporations, businesses...etc.

This kind of power being used can go both ways...depending on who is the sitting POTUS....it's a huge slippery slope...IMHO

 

[Florida173]

Maybe it's just me....but the federal government should never be censoring/canceling any news, show, movie...etc. Unless illegal activity is going on...not because mean words are being said. This includes using influence on media corporations, businesses...etc.

This kind of power being used can go both ways...depending on who is the sitting POTUS....it's a huge slippery slope...IMHO

They didn't. ABC/Disney chose to suspend a financial burden that was costing the network $5-20 million annually, and trending worse with an 11% decline in viewership month over month. He wasn't worth the $16 million salary

 

[Kraut783]

They didn't. ABC/Disney chose to suspend a financial burden that was costing the network $5-20 million annually, and trending worse with an 11% decline in viewership month over month. He wasn't worth the $16 million salary

I hope so...

 

[Topkick]

They didn't. ABC/Disney chose to suspend a financial burden that was costing the network $5-20 million annually, and trending worse with an 11% decline in viewership month over month. He wasn't worth the $16 million salary

I sometimes watch the late shows and can tolerate a little bashing of my politics, but the guy was fucking deranged with Trump and Republicans. It was pathetic, really.

 

[Muppet]

Maybe it's just me....but the federal government should never be censoring/canceling any news, show, movie...etc. Unless illegal activity is going on...not because mean words are being said. This includes using influence on media corporations, businesses...etc.

This kind of power being used can go both ways...depending on who is the sitting POTUS....it's a huge slippery slope...IMHO

Agreed, my wife was saying this earlier.

I told her that it was the company that did not want to loose out/litigation for retarded words for the reason dick head was fired, but yeah, I agree with you.

 

[Topkick]

At least Kimmel only lost a TV show and not his life for saying things people don"t want to hear.