Charlie Kirk shooting -

[Box]

Just the soft tissue on game animals like Elk, Mule Deer, and even large White Tail - has caused countless high powered rifle bullets to come apart on impact.

The 7 Mil Mag even got a reputation as a "wounder" when it first hit the market because hunters would score a good shot on game - and the animal would run away - never to be seen again. Lightly constructed bullets can and do come apart on impact in the craziest of circumstances. I've seen White Tail deer take both 150 and 180 grain .30-06 bullets at 100-150 yards and watched them jump and run like they had seen a ghost - then drop dead 100 yards away without an exit wound. I've had arrows go straight through and lodge an inch dep in a tree 75 yards away - with the animal laying down for a dirt nap less than 40 yards away.

In other cases - there are medium sized game animals that have dropped in their tracks like the "live switch" was flipped off - and they were hit with nothing more impressive that a 243 at well beyond 200 yards.

What happened to Charlie Kirk wasn't magic - or prophetic - or miraculous. It just happened.
An old sporterized military surplus rifle and what may or may not be a round from a questionable lot number of ammunition was used by an average shooter to take a very "makeable" shot from a very "makeable shot distance" and from the very disturbing video footage - the poor man was all but dead before he hit the ground.

Things happen.
...just my two cents based on my own meandering observations

 

[Blizzard]

Bullets can do all kinds of weird, unexpected things.

 

[Devildoc]

I have seen a lot of people do OK with handgun wounds to the neck/throat. I have never, ever seen someone with a rifle wound in that area survive. But then, I have only been in the trauma biz since 1990, so what do I know?

 

[AWP]

A shame the Warren Commission experts aren't around to help out with this bullet discussion...

 

[Muppet]

I have seen a lot of people do OK with handgun wounds to the neck/throat. I have never, ever seen someone with a rifle wound in that area survive. But then, I have only been in the trauma biz since 1990, so what do I know?

That's it? 1990. Rookie!

 

[Marauder06]

 

[Muppet]

Fucking Mets and Cohen.

 

[Cookie_]

I guess now the assassin is actually an Israeli from the French Foriegn Legion?

That's what Candace Owens is claiming.

Aside from her crazy ass; anything else come from all the weirdness around this? I didn't keep up with this as much when it slowed down in the news cycle, but I remember tons of questions regarding the rifle, caliber, alleged shooter, etc.

 

[Florida173]

I guess now the assassin is actually an Israeli from the French Foriegn Legion?

That's what Candace Owens is claiming.

Aside from her crazy ass; anything else come from all the weirdness around this? I didn't keep up with this as much when it slowed down in the news cycle, but I remember tons of questions regarding the rifle, caliber, alleged shooter, etc.

thought this had to do with her calling macron's wife a dude.. am I conflating my BS that I don't pay attention to?

let me know what you find out

 

[The Quartermaster]

She's a far right loon. Which is sad because her supporters are the enemy of my own enemy type and would throw her in the ropes too after she stops becoming useful to them.

 

[Topkick]

She's a far right loon. Which is sad because her supporters are the enemy of my own enemy type and would throw her in the ropes too after she stops becoming useful to them.

I think she's just a shock jock.

 

[Marauder06]

I used to like Candace Owens a lot. Now she's moving into "get off my side" territory.

 

[Topkick]

I used to like Candace Owens a lot. Now she's moving into "get off my side" territory.

I'm not sure she's genuine. It always seemed to me that she's in for the clicks and views. She's often right, but also often purposely inflammatory.

 

[Marauder06]

I'm not sure she's genuine. It always seemed to me that she's in for the clicks and views. She's often right, but also often purposely inflammatory.

Self-interest is a legit motivation as far as I'm concerned, and inflammatory is how you make a name in the influencer business. I'm good with both of those. But "weird-ass, unverifiable conspiracies" is not something I can get behind.*


*If she turns out to be right about the Macrons, I'll have to re-evaluate ;)

 

[Topkick]

But "weird-ass, unverifiable conspiracies" is not something I can get behind.*

I'm not sure she's genuine.

Thats my point. I'm not sure she believes some of the things she says. She is purposely being inflammatory to get clicks.

 

[Cookie_]

thought this had to do with her calling macron's wife a dude.. am I conflating my BS that I don't pay attention to?

let me know what you find out

You're not conflating anything. It's all connected because (reasons).

 

[Marauder06]

Thats my point. I'm not sure she believes some of the things she says. She is purposely being inflammatory to get clicks.

I misunderstood what you were saying. If she's just making stuff up, that's even worse than believing weird/untrue stuff.

 

[Topkick]

I misunderstood what you were saying. If she's just making stuff up, that's even worse than believing weird/untrue stuff.

Right. As a conservative, I've always thought we were the more logical people. Liberals are the folks who make stuff up, like, you know, a man can be a woman and have babies and shit. We need people who simply speak logic.

 

[AWP]

In a day and age with social media overrun by bots (most are foreign) and influencers selling their platforms to the highest bidder (both sides are doing this), as soon as I see someone repeatedly pushing lies, disinformation, BS, and conspiracy theories with questionable "evidence", that person is dead to me. At best they become background noise.

There are some YT and 'gram channels I used to follow and if they popped up in my feed, great. If not, great. Some formerly reputable folks (in my eyes) are gone because of what they started posting for clicks, even if their information is correct. Once you go into shock territory with questionable, baiting thumbnails you look like dispassionate logic has departer your channel. They too fall away into the background if they are lucky.

The masses lap up that shit which is why those turds post that type of video. We went from mainstream media is dead to new media will save us to new media is just as corrupt and FOS as legacy mainstream media.

Single source your news and opinions at your own peril. Live in echo chambers at your own peril. Refuse to think for yourself at everyone's peril. Group think is a cult of personality by another name.

 

[policemedic]

I guess now the assassin is actually an Israeli from the French Foriegn Legion?

That's what Candace Owens is claiming.

Aside from her crazy ass; anything else come from all the weirdness around this? I didn't keep up with this as much when it slowed down in the news cycle, but I remember tons of questions regarding the rifle, caliber, alleged shooter, etc.

She’s hot.

Beyond that…