Covid-19

Guess what, Hydroxychloroquine works, and has worked. And the only reason media companies were trying to go against it was because the POTUS. But now he hasn't been talking about it...and boom.

Study finds hydroxychloroquine may have boosted survival, but other researchers have doubts
I mean, if we’re keeping score at home, there’s something like a half dozen studies which say that HCQ has no effect on COVID mortality, two retracted studies which claimed HCQ increased mortality, and one study (along with a bunch of anecdotes) saying it reduced mortality.

To me, that seems highly inconclusive. It seems like nobody really understands the mechanism of action here, and recommending this drug for treatment should not be considered so rashly.
 
I mean, if we’re keeping score at home, there’s something like a half dozen studies which say that HCQ has no effect on COVID mortality, two retracted studies which claimed HCQ increased mortality, and one study (along with a bunch of anecdotes) saying it reduced mortality.

To me, that seems highly inconclusive. It seems like nobody really understands the mechanism of action here, and recommending this drug for treatment should not be considered so rashly.

But this is the problem I have with how everything has played out: multiple conflicting studies from multiple organizations or groups with strong credentials. Plus, how many of those studies were politically driven instead of with bad information?

We created global hysteria over something we don't understand.
 
I just attempt to get to good source material & in any good peer reviewed information there’s not a lot of bias.
A good example of bias is In the press where it can be quite obvious, so take it on board & understand it.

There's a lot of bias in peer-reviewed journals, too (well, medical journals). JAMA is the worst.
 
There's a lot of bias in peer-reviewed journals, too (well, medical journals). JAMA is the worst.
To that point, here is an interesting podcast from Michael Osterholm, he's been referenced numerous times earlier in this thread - overall, I'm still not a fan but on this topic he makes sense:
Special Episode: Masks and Science

^ You can listen to the podcast or read the transcript but among numerous interesting comments/observations, was this one from Osterholm:

"What was even more telling, regarding the MASKS4ALL letter was the fact that over a hundred prominent experts called for this mask requirement. I contacted five of them who I know well, all are close friends. Four of them were “surprised to shocked” when I shared the information I just with shared with you regarding the body of data or lack thereof, supporting the effectiveness of cloth masks in preventing viral respiratory-transmitted agents. They had just assumed that the summary information was accurate. The fifth one was honest enough to say to me, "Well, I signed it because of pressure from peers.” I don't know how many of the other signers of the letter had a similar experience. Regardless, this is not the way you make science-based public policy on such a critical issue."
 
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China is a dumpster fire and it needs to be put out.

Suspected case of bubonic plague in China's Inner Mongolia

Bayannur authorities warned the public to report findings of dead or sick marmots -- a type of large ground squirrel that is eaten in some parts of China and the neighboring country Mongolia, and which have historically caused plague outbreaks in the region.
 
Yes, SARS-COV-2 is viral. Tell us something we didn't know! If this was communicable by fluid exchange there would be less people dead, duh.


I’m sure you know this but there is a difference between airborne and droplet. The fact that it is viral has nothing to do with either. Norovirus is one of the most communicable virus’s on the planet and it is only communicable via surface contamination or exchange of fluids. Luckily Norovirus is relatively benign in the first world.

I don’t know of any medical center that isn’t already treating this as if it is Airborne. So I do agree, that we should realistically all be treating it as such if possible.
 
Inside medical facilities is one thing, they have all the appropriate PPE and training. But then putting aside all knowledge of said training and cherry picking reports to push public policy that ignores a major form of transmission. That's irrational. The masses are scared, because they've been told to he scared and now we need them to interact with other's. People were going to demand mask's but are not going to question the difference between a bandana and a respirator. If everyone demanded respirators, then we'd have another shortage.

Global experts: Ignoring airborne COVID spread risky cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/07/global-experts-ignoring-airborne-covid-spread-risky Mary Van Beusekom | News Writer | CIDRAP News | Jul 06, 2020 Bentson Foundation The lack of universal recognition that COVID-19 is transmitted via airborne particles, along with unclear infection-prevention recommendations, have led to a false sense of security that is putting the public at risk—especially amid reopenings of workplaces, schools, and colleges, according to a research letter published today in Clinical Infectious Diseases. Study authors Lidia Morawska, PhD, MSc, director of the International Laboratory for Air Quality and Health at the World Health Organization (WHO) Collaborating Centre in Brisbane, Australia, and Donald Milton, MD, DrPH, MOH, of the University of Maryland in College Park, said they implore the medical community and policymakers to acknowledge that SARS-CoV-2 can spread through the inhalation of microscopic respiratory droplets within 2 meters (6.6 feet) or close to the infectious person. Another 237 scientists from around the world signed the research letter, which states that studies have demonstrated "beyond all reasonable doubt" that viruses released during normal breathing, talking, and coughing are small enough to remain airborne and pose an infection risk to others nearby. For example, at usual indoor airspeeds, a 5-micrometer (μm) (0.005-millimeter) particle can travel throughout a typical-sized room, settling from a height of about 1.5 meters (roughly 5 feet) onto the floor. Lisa Brosseau, ScD, a nationally known expert on respiratory protection and infectious diseases and author of a commentary on COVID-19 transmission published by CIDRAP, said that the airborne route is traditionally defined as inhalation of respiratory pathogens only at a distance from the source. The study authors argue that there is plenty of evidence to indicate that infectious people generate lots of small particles, too, which remain near the source for long periods of time, said Brosseau, who calls this "aerosol transmission." Brosseau is a research consultant for the University of Minnesota's Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, which publishes CIDRAP News. Infectious virus in aerosols The authors cited a study of video records of three people infected with COVID-19 at a poorly ventilated Chinese restaurant. The videos showed no direct or indirect contact among the three parties, leading the researchers to conclude that the virus must have spread through the airborne route. And studies of other viruses such as respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) have shown that viruses can be exhaled and/or detected in the air of MERS isolation wards. "There is every reason to expect that SARS-CoV-2 behaves similarly, and that transmission via airborne microdroplets is an important pathway," they wrote. "Viral RNA associated with droplets smaller than 5 μm has been detected in air, and the virus has been shown to survive equally well, if not better, in aerosols compared to droplets on a surface." While current guidance from many international and national agencies recommends handwashing, physical distancing, and droplet precautions, most, including the WHO, don't recognize airborne transmission other than through aerosol-generating procedures, such as intubations, conducted in healthcare settings. The authors said they want the organization to redefine airborne transmission to include the inhalation of microscopic respiratory droplets close to the infectious source. CIDRAP Director Michael Osterholm, PhD, MPH, agrees that the WHO needs to concede that viruses such as COVID-19 can spread via the airborne route. "We are long overdue for the WHO to confront the blind spot it has had for accepting the critical importance of airborne transmission of respiratory pathogens such as influenza and SARS-CoV-2," he said. Brosseau concurs, saying that the WHO doesn't want to recommend respirators for use in less-developed countries. "I also think it's because their infection control advisors are intransigent when it comes to thinking about inhalation of aerosols close to a source," she said. Handwashing, physical distancing not enough The authors said that handwashing and physical distancing are appropriate—but not sufficient—to provide protection against respiratory microdroplets, particularly in poorly ventilated indoor environments such as those that have been at the center of several "superspreading" events. They recommend providing effective ventilation of indoor areas, including supplying clean outdoor air, minimizing recirculation, and supplementing with local exhaust, high-efficiency air filtration, and germ-killing ultraviolet lights, especially in public buildings, workplaces, schools, hospitals, and nursing homes. They also advise avoiding crowding, especially on public transportation and in buildings. Noting that the guidance doesn't include the use of face coverings in public, Brosseau said that that is probably because they "will do very little to prevent the spread or stop the inhalation of small particles." Acknowledging that the evidence is incomplete for all modes of coronavirus spread, including microdroplets, large droplets, and infected surfaces that are the foundation of current guidance, the authors said that the measures they propose offer more benefits than potential risks, even if only partially implemented. Even such low-cost measures as opening doors and windows can effectively increase air flow in many buildings, the authors said. The American Society of Heating, Ventilating, and Air-Conditioning Engineers and the Federation of European Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning Associations have already issued recommendations for mechanical systems. "In order to control the pandemic, pending the availability of a vaccine, all routes of transmission must be interrupted," the researchers wrote.
Global experts: Ignoring airborne COVID spread risky
 
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