He didn't mention the NHL which is probably more essential than life itself.
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ThunderHorse
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Audiences at NFL games have to wears masks and be socially distanced. Audiences at SNL were indoors and not socially distanced. Pretty simple dude.
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Show us.
Silly wanna be Australian
On the list you go...
But don't worry we'll probably both be dead before I get that far down it.
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She has...so, be warned!
How about paying them to circumvent the rules?
Saturday Night Live Paid Audience Members to Attend the Season Premiere
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Paying a limited number of people who want to be there to follow the even stricter guidelines of crew members, which include getting tested and remaining masked throughout (obvious exceptions for cast live filming on stage)?
Absolutely.
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Locksteady
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Thank you, this is helpful, and good evidence to support one part of your claim (the lack of social distancing).
The key mitigating factor there is that every single one of them, like each crew member, had to be tested before being permitted to watch the show.
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Asymptotic spread? Hold up a sec. Will this change anything or is there just too much ($900 billion) invested?
Asymptomatic Spread Revisited
Asymptomatic Spread Revisited
Devildoc
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Whether or not something is legal or illegal is often not the significant issue, but merely the matter of impropriety. People are literally dying, killing themselves because their businesses are failing but The entertainment industry seems to truck along. Yeah, the messaging sucks.
ThunderHorse
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Generally speaking we've know that asymptomatic cases make 80-90% of the positive tests, we're testing completely "healthy" people. Their symptoms? A Bad Cold. So we are crushing ourselves for something that is not affecting the majority of the population. If anything moving to voluntary and non-prescribed testing has been one of the dumber decisions world governments have made.
What's the major co-morbidity that makes someone sick? Obesity. Which is an epidemic that creates the path to Heart Disease which kills the most people of any cause every year.
And we went from "Hey, get active, being active is good for you" to "stay home completely, no seeing your loved ones."
Governor Howard Dean, M.D., the one time Iowa Caucus 3rd Place Winner who went on a yelling rampage in that concession speech had great thoughts on shifting the Medical Model in the United States. We're still on a sickness model, where we treat sickness and not really promote wellness. This would be a significant shift in how PCPs did things I believe.
Is someone who is obese going to take their doctor serious about the advice to lose weight and clean their shit up if their PCP is also obese?
The best part is I know obese people who go: "No I'm completely Healthy, just had my physical and all my labs were great."
That's kind of a tangent, but 60% of the population is severely overweight in the US.
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ETA: I like literally despise the NYT, mostly because the woke artists get in the way of their real journalists, but they have some amazing investigative journos still working there. Chapeau to these folks!
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Devildoc
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What a surreal day. We are approaching 1600 or so vaccinated, probably have had fewer than 10 people with reactions, all of whom were fine.
The governor came through a couple hours ago, my boss looking daggers at me, she had already asked me to keep my mouth shut. So I told her as a Christmas present to her I would keep my mouth shut, so I did.
His brief visit in my particular area lasted about 5 minutes, and was benign enough.
In other news, our ICU beds are starting to fill alarmingly fast, we're not getting people out of the beds at the rate in which we are filling them. For the first time since this thing started we are concerned that we are going to run out of beds.
The governor came through a couple hours ago, my boss looking daggers at me, she had already asked me to keep my mouth shut. So I told her as a Christmas present to her I would keep my mouth shut, so I did.
His brief visit in my particular area lasted about 5 minutes, and was benign enough.
In other news, our ICU beds are starting to fill alarmingly fast, we're not getting people out of the beds at the rate in which we are filling them. For the first time since this thing started we are concerned that we are going to run out of beds.
Florida173
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How much are you seeing the DHS/FEMA response to allocating resources. When I was working a bit of the data analytics side, we never really saw any areas in need that weren't at least adjacent to other areas that could provide support. The exception being the NYC/NJ. I no longer have access to the COP
I can’t speak as well as @Devildoc can because I don’t see Dukes info, but UNC and their assorted system is filling up rapidly. Duke has what I would consider a significant capability to increase bed size due to a new building, but the other local systems do not. Further bed numbers aren’t even relevant if they cannot be competently staffed. That means Doctors, midlevels and nurses that are competent in taking care of complex ICU patients. These people do not grow on trees, and unless something has changed, Duke and the localities here are not competitive in travel nurse pay with places like the Midwest currently.
I have been saying from the beginning, you don’t want to be treated on a ventilator by a floor nurse, and an OBGYN resident.
Devildoc
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That is a good question. Our institution is so big, We have a lot of flexibility and being able to expand ICU resources, to a point. Our next stop would be the state, we could set up a SMAT capability, there's also some creative room with redesigning rooms and other buildings as general patient wards in order to offload our ICUs into hospital beds to make room. We are still a long way from having to have the feds intervene.
ThunderHorse
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The vast majority of the field hospitals that were deployed because doctors decided to kill people. I literally look at it that way. We have anecdotal evidence from @Muppet earlier.
We deployed hospital ships to LA and New York. Multiple CASH units all over the country only to have them go unutilized because of the "optics" as Muppet wrote of having someone sleep on a cot. So elderly patients all over the country were discharged and sent back to their nursing/retirement homes where governors like Cuomo forced those facilities to take their residents back even though they were infected with a highly contagious and pretty deadly [for elderly patients] virus. I know people who deployed with reserve CSH units to help support highly impacted areas that never saw a patient.
For example, 627th AHC deployed, stood up, and left after three days.
CenturyLink field hospital to be dismantled, sent to state with greater need
USNS Mercy had to unass itself from a refit to go do work in LA, it did some, but much. It returned to SD pretty rapidly.
USNS Mercy Hospital Ship Returns to San Diego
USNS Comfort was also barely used.
Hospital Ship USNS Comfort to Return to Virginia – gCaptain
