Covid-19

SaintKP said:
We had already switched to DT only about 3 weeks ago, before that it was dispensing cups, straws, essentially everything minus filling the customer cups themselves. We had even gotten to where we refused filling any thermoses or refilling coffee. We would provide a new cup and lid.

Interestingly enough even switching to DT only our sales haven't taken that much of a hit relative to everything that's going on. TTM we were cruising at a 25% increase, now with switching to DT only we're currently only at a 17% increase as of this month.

So while we've taken a hit, it's been relatively marginal. Guess people bought all the toilet paper but forgot to get groceries.
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They didn’t “forget” groceries, so much as they just don’t want to cook all the stuff they’ve got just yet. Not all of them went in with a list, some freaked out and grabbed random shit that’s just going to sit and rot. Others got fucked out of regular grocery shopping, thanks to the zombie hoarder lemming folks.

My restaurant was forced into a TO only mode of operations Wednesday at 1700L. With a bar and seating for almost 600 sitting idle, our sales are down, naturally. However, we are seeing steady business through third party delivery, curbside service, as well as online and call-in orders.

I don’t know about where you’re at, but there’s actually a movement here among the non-service industry folk to patronize local restaurants via takeout to help keep them afloat. Your location could be a beneficiary of a similar grass roots effort.

I’m just glad to hear you’re not losing income, or at least not substantially.
 
racing_kitty said:
They didn’t “forget” groceries, so much as they just don’t want to cook all the stuff they’ve got just yet. Not all of them went in with a list, some freaked out and grabbed random shit that’s just going to sit and rot. Others got fucked out of regular grocery shopping, thanks to the zombie hoarder lemming folks.

My restaurant was forced into a TO only mode of operations Wednesday at 1700L. With a bar and seating for almost 600 sitting idle, our sales are down, naturally. However, we are seeing steady business through third party delivery, curbside service, as well as online and call-in orders.

I don’t know about where you’re at, but there’s actually a movement here among the non-service industry folk to patronize local restaurants via takeout to help keep them afloat. Your location could be a beneficiary of a similar grass roots effort.

I’m just glad to hear you’re not losing income, or at least not substantially.
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A lot of our local restaurants are doing very similar things. One has been making free meals for the elderly and disabled, offering pickup and delivery. Wednesday they made 1500 and were planning on making more as long as they can. Excess produce is then packaged up and sold in store at a low cost, limiting amount of customers in the store and making a priority to those getting the free meals.
 
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racing_kitty said:
They didn’t “forget” groceries, so much as they just don’t want to cook all the stuff they’ve got just yet. Not all of them went in with a list, some freaked out and grabbed random shit that’s just going to sit and rot. Others got fucked out of regular grocery shopping, thanks to the zombie hoarder lemming folks.

My restaurant was forced into a TO only mode of operations Wednesday at 1700L. With a bar and seating for almost 600 sitting idle, our sales are down, naturally. However, we are seeing steady business through third party delivery, curbside service, as well as online and call-in orders.

I don’t know about where you’re at, but there’s actually a movement here among the non-service industry folk to patronize local restaurants via takeout to help keep them afloat. Your location could be a beneficiary of a similar grass roots effort.

I’m just glad to hear you’re not losing income, or at least not substantially.
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I was speaking in jest about the forgetting their groceries, alot of the people in our area are ordering what would be considered 'dinner orders' during lunch time. Most likely for kids at home and families that are prevented from going to work.

Currently our CO-OP is looking at providing meals for kids that are on the school lunch program or other community alternatives to help support the area. I don't imagine our sales drying up to the point where we would temporarily close, largely to the low cost to eat, but I'd imagine if we reach that point the world is in a much worse place than it is right now.

Has your municipality enacted anything for businesses? Here there's been talk of 'grace periods' for either utilities or land payments to the city to ease cost of operations.

But it's just talk at this time.
 
Question related to an article I'm going to write: what do you see as the US military's role in the corona crisis?
 
Blizzard said:
No.

It's not really an issue that calls for a military solution. Doing so would be yet another distraction from the actual purpose of our military.
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Devil's advocate, that would be a hard u-turn from our traditional use of the military in disaster response. Not just the national guard which has it built into a mission, but we have deployed the Comfort and the Mercy in many disasters, we routinely activate reservists with critical skill sets to deploy within the country, we routinely support and beef up civilian infrastructure.

I am absolutely open to the conversation on whether or not we should as opposed to why we have done it.
 
Devildoc said:
Devil's advocate, that would be a hard u-turn from our traditional use of the military in disaster response. Not just the national guard which has it built into a mission, but we have deployed the Comfort and the Mercy in many disasters, we routinely activate reservists with critical skill sets to deploy within the country, we routinely support and beef up civilian infrastructure.

I am absolutely open to the conversation on whether or not we should as opposed to why we have done it.
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At this point, there really isn't a DR mission:
1. We don't need supplies distributed en mass; probably just the opposite actually
2. There is no civil unrest.
3. The treatment for most does not require hospitalization, it's go home, isolate, and let it take it's course. So, with 70ish serious cases nationwide, hospital beds/hospitalization is not a pressing issue either.

Generally speaking, a lot of people want to help. But, at least for now, I see no real need for even NG assistance.
 
Blizzard said:
At this point, there really isn't a DR mission:
1. We don't need supplies distributed en mass; probably just the opposite actually
2. There is no civil unrest.
3. The treatment for most does not require hospitalization, it's go home, isolate, and let it take it's course. So, with 70ish serious cases nationwide, hospital beds/hospitalization is not a pressing issue either.

Generally speaking, a lot of people want to help. But, at least for now, I see no real need for even NG assistance.
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At this time I agree with you. But I think it is a button that should probably get pushed sooner rather than later. If it got pushed later we're right back into the condition of being behind the ball and never in front of it, kind of like we are now.

I don't have an issue with starting the mobilization of some assets, like the Comfort and Mercy. Those things don't get spun up in a day.
 
An interesting perspective from a doctor in Vancouver.

A letter from my husband.

Dear all,

I know many of you personally and others, I have not met. I hope that all of you and your families are well.

My name is Myp Sekhon and I work in the Vancouver General Hospital intensive care unit as a physician. My goal in writing to you is to describe this illness and the importance of heeding public health warnings. As all of you know, COVID-19 is upon us in BC and Canada. I'm sure you have seen the public health officer and Health minister warning the public as well as all the media stories. At times, stories on the TV may not hit home as much as a personal account of being on the front lines.

In short, it is terrifying to be on the front lines but we do it because it is our passion to care for the sick and vulnerable.

There have been reports that this virus preferentially infects older people and they are the most vulnerable. From treating multiple patients with this disease, I can tell you that it does NOT exclusively affect the elderly. Younger patients are also contracting the disease and are at significant risk. In fact, many younger patients are carrying this virus without symptoms and spreading it silently across our communities.

Placing patients on life support is something we do not take lightly and it brings us no happiness. Life support consists of machines that keep your body alive and it is only a supportive and temporizing measure. There is no medication to reverse this virus once it infects you. As such, we can only buy time for patients by placing them on ventilators / respirators while we hope their own immune system fights off the infection. There is NO guarantee that all patients, including younger people, will be able to successfully fight it off...meaning that they will die.

The best thing you can do to avoid that scenario is STAY HOME / SELF ISOLATE / UNDERTAKE SOCIAL DISTANCING and listen to the public health warnings. Every step that you take to undertake these actions is likely to save another person's life. This is the greatest threat to our society's health in an entire generation. To avoid a scenario like Italy, please act NOW. Help your loved ones, friends, neighbors and healthcare providers by taking the aforementioned steps.

As healthcare providers, we cannot stay home so that you can.

Myp Sekhon
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