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Kheenbish
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Honest question, what happens in 1-3 months when everyone returns to work? Won't this same concept happen at that point also?
I ask because in 1-3 montha everyone won't suddenly become immune or find a cure, nor will the virus just dissapear. I won't argue against the quarantine theory, but isn't it just delaying the inevitable?
They're thinking was "buddy knew he was sick in a week, so that's good enough."
Had to explain to him that his friend already probably had it. Think they understand it needs to be two weeks minimum right now.
Not to trash my relatives, but this is the same side of the family that just bought Coronavirus-killing toothpaste because Alex Jones said it would work.
That's absolutely a fair question, one that I'm not qualified to answer from a legal perspective.
As a layperson though, what's more likely to result in legislation that truly takes our rights away:
People comply with the orders even though they seem like BS overreactions, and once this is over we get our elected officials to fully develop future pandemic response plans and codify those in law.
Or
People continue to ignore health guidelines and we see increased deaths and spread of the pandemic; the population is scared and allows anything (up to and including martial law) to pass, because fear trumps rights (IE Patriot Act).
Those of us actually worried about our rights now are still going to be active in that regard after this; if you scare the average American, they'll give up everything for a sense of security.
I don't have a link right now because I'm at work, but the idea is that it keeps this at a more manageable number, hospital/healthcare resources wise, for a much longer time.
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We don't know. It could be like MERS and disappear. It could go away and come back, seasonally, like a flu. Or it could be a one time, watershed event.
Quarantine/social distancing can prevent transmission, once the bug runs its' course, it'll just die out.
But right now, no one knows. But we DO know "flattening the curve" will mitigate oversaturation of healthcare resources.
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THIS is why We cannot be defeated. Ever. (Or American ingenuity rises again)
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Italy is getting overwhelmed, they're seeing increases in cases between 30-40 year olds. Don't go out if you can avoid it, and don't engage in risky behavior that might lead to injury in the next few months. Avoid contacts that practice adverse behavior.
Infrastructure to treat this thing is going to take time. Video below gives explanation of the steps being taken right now to build up capabilities.
For those outside the forum. Our nation and the rest of the world are under attack, by a viral agent that originated near China's sole biosafety level 4 facility. China covered this up with help from the WHO, until things could not be hidden anymore. When the bodies start piling up or when you can't breath and are coughing up blood, remember it was China who seeded the world with this virus.
Infrastructure to treat this thing is going to take time. Video below gives explanation of the steps being taken right now to build up capabilities.
For those outside the forum. Our nation and the rest of the world are under attack, by a viral agent that originated near China's sole biosafety level 4 facility. China covered this up with help from the WHO, until things could not be hidden anymore. When the bodies start piling up or when you can't breath and are coughing up blood, remember it was China who seeded the world with this virus.
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Time to unass Denver. $999 fine if you get caught outside your home. Not kidding.
Denver liquor stores, marijuana shops now allowed to stay open with "extreme physical distancing"
ETA: Fuck you Xi. You did this and we know it.
Denver liquor stores, marijuana shops now allowed to stay open with "extreme physical distancing"
ETA: Fuck you Xi. You did this and we know it.
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The WHO helping the CCP attempt to cover this up?
Your post is the first I've heard of that.
ETA: You got a link or two I can check out?
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Denver/Philly/others fining individuals for being outside and the DOJ trying to suspend Habeas Corpus are all things I'm willing to say are crossing the line.
The WHO helping the CCP attempt to cover this up?
Your post is the first I've heard of that.
ETA: You got a link or two I can check out?
@ThunderHorse
Denver/Philly/others fining individuals for being outside and the DOJ trying to suspend Habeas Corpus are all things I'm willing to say are crossing the line.
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Completely unenforceable. And liquor and pot stores allowed to remain open as essential businesses? A lot of things I've read make me share my head but Denver did it. They went full retard.
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From: How China’s Incompetence Endangered the World
This is much more than inside-baseball Chinese politics. It matters deeply for businesses wondering how long the pain of China’s shutdown will last and for public health leaders worried about how they might handle the coronavirus should it spread inside their countries, states, or cities. It has spilled over onto WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, who has faced sharp criticism—even a recall petition—for his meetings with Xi and other Chinese leaders and his apparent reluctance to declare the outbreak a global health emergency.
For his part, Xi disappeared from public view the day after his January 27 meeting the WHO’s Ghebreyesus, not to be seen again for twelve days, when he briefly strolled through the Chaoyang district of Beijing, wearing a medical mask.
The political crisis in China is prompting global concern about the reliability of epidemic data released by the Chinese government, the usefulness of Chinese guidance regarding how the virus is spread and who is at risk for death, and the measures best taken to protect health care workers from falling victim to the disease they are trying to treat. Since the first Dec. 30 announcement of a new disease in Wuhan, the CCP has woven a tapestry of narratives, primarily for domestic political purposes, aligning official case and death numbers with the storylines. Meanwhile, the international health community, from WHO all the way down to academic statisticians and infectious diseases analysts, has tried to infer from the dubious official daily tallies just how dangerous the coronavirus disease may be for the rest of the world.
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They knew about this and fucked us.
Snip:
Taiwan Accuses WHO of Failing to Heed Warning of Coronavirus Human-to-Human Transmission | National Review
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Because, as it turns out yet again, math is not a skill in which the elected excel.
Immediate lines outside liquor and pot shops were not only long, but several times as long with people keeping a 3-6 foot distance from each other.
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To no one's real surprise, similar ridiculousness is taking place in CA due to "shelter in place" orders. One of my business partners lives in Irvine and tells me they aren't allowing any more than 10 families into grocery stores at a time so as to maintain social distancing. So, what do they do? Stack up together outside to wait their turn to go in. 
China pressures WHO not to deal with Taiwan.
The director "General" of the WHO is probably more leftist then medical man (google his name), so making China look bad really isn't on his list (unless necessary to save his ass).
There's "y'all need to stay home" and then there's "fine or jail if you leave your residence." "Businesses should voluntarily close or mitigate the public's risk" is not the same as "You are directed to..."
Also, fuck the lying ass Chinese gov't. Trash human beings not worthy of oxygen.
Also, fuck the lying ass Chinese gov't. Trash human beings not worthy of oxygen.
PORTLAND, Ore — Oregon Governor Kate Brown issued strict orders Monday to shut down non-essential businesses and constrain social and recreational gatherings.
The move, which lists violations as a Class C misdemeanor, forces closure of businesses like arcades, barber shops, hair salons, gyms and fitness studios, skating rinks, playgrounds, theaters, sports facilities and yoga studios.
Businesses that remain open must implement social distancing guidelines, keeping customers at least six feet apart. Workers must be given a chance by employers to work from home. The order does not affect families in homes.
Gov. Brown outlines strict stay-at-home orders, punishable by fines or jail
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Governor Ralph Northam declared a state of emergency in response to COVID-19 here in Virginia
Coronavirus Updates | Virginia.gov
Coronavirus Updates | Virginia.gov
Australia, Biosecurity Act 2015 which was enacted last week. I think the US has similar in place, no one has pulled the trigger yet.
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